Instead of running a 203/205 doubler kit, i am thinking of runnin the 203 off of the trans and then divorcing my 205 to actually engage the 4x4...i should still have the 4:1 low u get with the kit, right? but my real question is...could i use the "unused" 203 output shaft to drive a pto winch? if not what else could it be used for? or is this just a bad idea all together? if worse comes to worst i could just take the drive chain out and forget its even down there.

 

When you use a doubler kit, the rear section of the 203 gets thrown in the trash. You will no longer have the differential / chain section of the 203. The 205 (married unit) takes the place of the back of the 203. The gear to gear section (front half) of the 203 is the only part that you will retain, it only acts as a gear reducer before the 205 case. If you wanna pto, you will have to run it from the 205 unit, but let me warn you, it gets very crowded under there with linkages alone. You will now have 3 sticks poking through the tunnel, and 4 if your truck is not automatic.

 

yes you can do that, your 203 has to be married and then from there run a divorced 205. i just wanna keep it clear! lol

that is fine, i have seen folks do that... thing is, it could get confusing and maybe troublesome. you'll have to pull the 205 in neutral and then the 203 in front wheel drive

-cutts-

 

looked at the 203 yesterday, the drive chain is broken or stretched b/c it will turn fine forward but when u turn it backwards and then forward again it acts like it skips over some links and nothing will turn...also i think im gonna nix the 203/pto idea b/c i dont have the shift pattern for that t-case and remembering where everything is at will be a pain...it is an old AWD t-case from my friend's 78 F-250 so i know it has 2H-2L-N-4H-4L....i think but im not sure, that should be the shift pattern.

oh yea fishman...as far as troublesome goes, i am also wanting to twinstick my 205. i am going for a shock factor when ppl hop in it like "oh my god, how do you drive this thing?!"...that and independent control of your axles is just WAY cool and sounds awful handy.

the same guy that sold me all my spare parts (that im gonna start consolidating) just sold me an old b@s+ard highboy frame for $150....but it comes with my divorced t-case and jackshaft, a married 4 spd (the one for the divorced 205 stays), a D60 and a Closed knuckle 44 (another item for the scrap pile!). i call it a ba$t@rd frame b/c the front leaves are 3" and the rear are the old 2 1/2" stack, and the frame is wide like a post '77 1/2 f-truck, yet it has a closed knuckle axle and manual steering. i have so many 60's (rears) i dont know what to do with them all. i hate to scrap them, but they are takin up space, no one here wants them and i know nothing about shippin them out of state.

 

the last np203 I've seen was in a dodge half-ton. It was 4Hi:4Hi-Lok:N:4Lo:4Lo-Lok. I don't know if that helps though.

 

if you end up doing the shuft rail mod your self lemme know, i have some good resources that halped me. or if you send it to me i will do it (not the case just the shift rail, lol)

-cutts-

 

what shift rail mod? i was just sayin that when i last saw this t-case in a truck i remember it had 2H-2L-N-4H-4L and i THINK but dont know if that was the actual shift pattern....but mods are always interesting, and fun..well, sometimes...but anyway...elaborate, i want to hear more! (unless you are talking about a twin-stick 205, then yes i am hell bent on doin that, and while i appreciate your offer i would actually like to tackle this one myself...but help is always welcome!)

im also wondering if i can go ahead and ditch the actual t-case part of the 203 like i was goin to do the doubler kit, but then just leave the rest (the parts im gonna use) on the tranny and then run a divorced 205 behind all that...is it even do-able? could i make some type of plate and a gasket to cover it up and then run a drive shaft out of it? sheesh im just full of ideas and no money! i just wonder if they're good ideas or not...

 

yea thats what i was talking about, the 205 shift rail mod to twinstick it!

unless you are gonna get the 203/205 adapter you need to keep the case in tact. otherwise all the innards would be exposed. i guess you could make a cover plate, but i'd just go ahead and either leave the case together or go all out and do the adapter plate

-cutts-

 

hmm...i see. just tryin to think of a way to get my length down w/o spending $700. oh well, i'll prolly just end up runnin 2 t-cases. so, any advice on the twin stick mod?

 

here is the pic i used! it was awesome b/c if you print it out it is life size, so you can compare by placing your rail on top of the pic

http://medusa.ih8mud.com/NP205/205ShiftRail.JPG

here is some info on how to replace the seals while you're in there... you might as well!

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/2...-in-np205.html

-cutts-

 

thanks man, are there any side views of that shaft? dont want to make it too deep...that'd be BAD! :S

 

you dont make them any deeper, you just extend them! just grind a lil at a time, you'll see once you get in there!

-cutts-