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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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I am sure that some of you have more use of your Block heater than me. Is there any do's or don'ts with it? Other that not to start it while plugged in.

My 04 PSD sounds like waking up a angry bear when the temps is about 40 or so.

I have been just plugging it when I return from somewhere until I leave again, since it is so " cold " here in Austin now. Sure go ahead and laugh about how cold it is here in Austin ( 38 right now.) Do not know how you guys up North can handle it up there.

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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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How's the oil? New? Correct weight?

Is the block heater working?
 
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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Thanks Ken.

Oil is brand New. Correct weight Delo 15-40 HD Diesel.
The block heater works fine. Just wondering if it is OK to leave it plugged in for 12 hours or more at a time.

My Bro in Law has a 6.0 PSD too. He says his truck sounds the exact same. Take 15 secs or more to " Level " the idle.

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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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You might want to post this in the 6.0L section too.

Title it to get attention like " Cold start idle sonds like a bear!" or something. Could be part of Navistar's "design" in which somebody here on FTE found a fix for!
 
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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ECA go ahead and put a timer on the block heater and have it kick on 3-4 hours prior to startup and you'll be good to go.

You should hear the 6.0's that get started at 20 degrees or less(not plugged in),it's not something you wanna experience.

Stay safe down there in Austin
 
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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I can only imagine that.... Thanks for the timer idea. I thought I read that heater runs at over a 1000watts. I guess that could get expensive on the electric bill. Glad it is not cold here very often

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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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Just figure in what you pay per kilowatt hour and if you run it for 3-4 hours a night it could be as much as .45 to .60 cents a night not bad considering you hop into a warm truck thats not beating itself trying to warm up

I have a 20 AMP rated timer I run off of on the cold nights,wife is very appreciative of a warm truck on those cold mornings
 
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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Yep, sounds like small change to keep the baby warm.
About to drop $3k to modify the header of my garage, and garage door so that she can stay nice and toasty in there.

Lenght no problem, height problem... 7.4 tall with a 7.0 header.

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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ECA
I am sure that some of you have more use of your Block heater than me. Is there any do's or don'ts with it? Other that not to start it while plugged in.

My 04 PSD sounds like waking up a angry bear when the temps is about 40 or so.

I have been just plugging it when I return from somewhere until I leave again, since it is so " cold " here in Austin now. Sure go ahead and laugh about how cold it is here in Austin ( 38 right now.) Do not know how you guys up North can handle it up there.

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OK. Is it bad to start the truck while still plugged into block heater? Why?

I had never used the darn thing until this weekends wintry blast in Tulsa. I have to plug it in before stuffing into one side of my garage. I use a 20 A extension cord and lay it out below center of truck before driving on in. Then, when I back out, I stop (also to fold out mirrors) and unplug it.

I must say that it is really nice to have heat right away. My family really likes it.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 09:19 AM
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OK. Is it bad to start the truck while still plugged into block heater? Why?

I had never used the darn thing until this weekends wintry blast in Tulsa. I have to plug it in before stuffing into one side of my garage. I use a 20 A extension cord and lay it out below center of truck before driving on in. Then, when I back out, I stop (also to fold out mirrors) and unplug it.

I must say that it is really nice to have heat right away. My family really likes it.
No problem to leave plugged in.

The only problem may be is if you forget (in a hurry) and drive off with it plugged in. I use a 25' length of 12 guage extension and loop it over my driver's mirror so I always see it and can not forget it (or my wife for that matter).

No harm to start truck with it plugged in though.

Check my gallery for pictures the 'Marinco AC Plug" mod I did for the block heater. Works great and places the plug-in on the driver's side of the vehicle (at least on diesels).... but would work for gassers as well.

Clean, neat and simple to install and use.
 

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having a little problem being sympathetic about 30-40 degrees, -17 this morning, and my block heater hasn't been kicking in. (I use a timer also, when I'm sure it's workking) It sure is nice though when it is, I guess I'll be figuring it out, if it ever warms up enough, and the snow melts enough, to work on it. Brrrr.....
 
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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having a little problem being sympathetic about 30-40 degrees, -17 this morning, and my block heater hasn't been kicking in. (I use a timer also, when I'm sure it's workking) It sure is nice though when it is, I guess I'll be figuring it out, if it ever warms up enough, and the snow melts enough, to work on it. Brrrr.....
So,, does your diesel start ok at -17 with out the heater? I am planning a trip to North Dakota and Canada. -16 and I do have the block heater, but was wondering,, #1 diesel? Heater required to start? What is really needed to start at -16 on a PSD. Thanks Jim
 
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 10:09 PM
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I use a 25' length of 12 guage extension and loop it over my driver's mirror so I always see it and can not forget it (or my wife for that matter).
Yes! I do the exact same time. Great (and nutty?) minds think alike.

I've pondered adding a kill relay to the block heater circuit, such that when the block heater is plugged in you can't start the truck. But that was more trouble than it was worth, so I just drape the (bright yellow) cord over the mirror.

I can also vouch for the block heater being no problem to leave on along with the engine. There isn't any mystery to the heater: It's simply a small AC heat element in the water jacket. No electrical connection to the rest of the truck. It doesn't even have a thermostat, but doesn't need one as 1000W isn't enough energy to overheat these engines (unless the engine is already hot & running in hot weather, I suppose).
 
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by fatswany
having a little problem being sympathetic about 30-40 degrees, -17 this morning, and my block heater hasn't been kicking in. (I use a timer also, when I'm sure it's workking) It sure is nice though when it is, I guess I'll be figuring it out, if it ever warms up enough, and the snow melts enough, to work on it. Brrrr.....
I recently replaced the original block heater element in our 7.3L due to it wasn't "sizzling" like it had in the prior winter as well as it wasn't registering on the coolant temp needle but with the new one it works mucho better.
Typically when it gets down to 20 degrees I'll have the timer kick it on but below 20 I run the block heater overnight which was very helpful during our recent 2 week Excursion across Kansas,Colorado,Wyoming,Utah and Idaho where single digit lows are the norm.(Always try and select hotels that have outlets specifically for block heater equipped vehicles)
Howdy Beachbumcook
 
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