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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by KevinM
Y-Blockhead - no one is debating the environmental issues of MTBE, but Ethanol is also an oxygenate, of which the by product of combustion is also carbon. So I don't understand why you even posted what you did since the discussion was about carbon deposits. The point I was making is if the ethanol content will have the same carbonizing effect within the internal combustion process. As far as how much is still left up in the air.

Simmy150 - your analogy was correct 10 to 15 years ago, but unless the vehicles are manufactured in a 3rd world country the cost are pretty much the same. In fact a major portion of Japanese and German vehicles are manufactured right here in the US. Labor in Aisa (Japan) and Europe has been on the steady incline. So at one time your union labor comment would have been correct but in today's market it's not the major factor.

As far as carbon issues just about every vehicle has the issue. Ever hear of the manufacturer or dealership suggest a top end cleaner, and for drivers to use a cleaner such as Techron etc. during a fillup.
Hogwash. The foreign makers with US manufacturing (Mercedes, BMW, Honda, Toyota, and Nissan) have much better deals with labor and with the states that "host" their plants (see the new Toyota plant in MS just this week). These deals save them a couple thousand dollars per vehicle.

Also interesting is the research this week that up to 50% of pickup buyers would consider switching brands with their next purchase. Unthinkable just a few years ago.

Both of these facts add up to big potential problems for GM, Ford, and Chrysler.
 
Old Mar 2, 2007 | 11:45 PM
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Guys the BIG 3/American auto do not care about the American auto buyer. They still got the we are the big boys and no one is going to beat us. I hope soon they find out their wrong, its bullsh#t. You drop $30,000 plus on a truck and the damn thing breaks. I mean come on, thats a load of ****.!!! I can buy a YoTa an not have half the problems/major problems that im having with my current truck. I may be a whinner but hey im paying all this money and life sucks. So i got very little to talk about, but **** we drop alot of money on these trucks. i lose track where i was going wit this, sorry but thats how i feel.
 
Old Mar 3, 2007 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Phil150
but **** we drop alot of money on these trucks. i lose track where i was going wit this, sorry but thats how i feel.
You're cracking me up Phil. I get all exercised and lose my train of thought too. I'm definitely not gonna buy another gasser pickup but it still might be a Ford.
 
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