Notices
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DP Tuner

wait to start light not on?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 2, 2007 | 04:50 PM
  #1  
Tuff48's Avatar
Tuff48
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: E.Tenn
wait to start light not on?

Been having some issues with my 99 being hard to start on some occasions. thanks to you guys I believe its the gpr or gp. today i hooked a borrowed superchip code reader to it (semi- read the instructions). it said reprograming to stock so i quickly unplugged it before it could finish.going to drive home and get my buddy to use it. the wait to start light did not come on and the service engine soon light came on. would not start. used a screwdriver on the glow plug relay to cross it, cycled it a few times still not starting. did i screw up? hooked it to my buddies truck read his exhaust code. on mine it said NO Response i hope i didnt fry the pcm or something. hopefully it the glow plugs or the relay. ANY help before i take it to the stealership Please.
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2007 | 06:10 PM
  #2  
Uzumati's Avatar
Uzumati
Post Fiend
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,497
Likes: 7
From: Central, Al
With no WTS light check all of the fuses under the dash and the hood. Particularly all of the ones tied to the PCM.
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2007 | 07:50 PM
  #3  
Tuff48's Avatar
Tuff48
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: E.Tenn
does anyone have a printout of where each fuse goes or does the fuse box have it listed thanks. would that make the service engine light come on? and by touching the 2 big terminals on the gpr could i have blown a fuse because it sparked when i touched it with the screwdriver
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2007 | 07:57 PM
  #4  
Uzumati's Avatar
Uzumati
Post Fiend
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,497
Likes: 7
From: Central, Al
Shouldnt have unless you hit one of the small trigger wires by accident. PM me your email address and I can send you the drawing. If you have the owners manual it is in there.
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2007 | 09:06 PM
  #5  
clintbonnie's Avatar
clintbonnie
Cargo Master
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,292
Likes: 6
From: Ardenvoir, Washington
I think would contact superchip and tell them that you stop the loading process and see if that would cause part of your problem.
 
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2007 | 12:43 AM
  #6  
ryaneverk2's Avatar
ryaneverk2
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 4,221
Likes: 3
Be sure to check fuse #30 under the panel below the steering wheel. It is for the fuel bowl heater and PCM relay. If the fuel bowl heater shorts, it'll blow that fuse and you will have no WTS light and no start. If that's the case for you, unplug the connection at the fuel bowl for the fuel bowl heater or it'll blow the fuse again.
 
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2007 | 04:13 AM
  #7  
Tuff48's Avatar
Tuff48
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: E.Tenn
i tried plugging it in which has worked before but no luck. ill check the fuses today while at work.
 
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2007 | 04:25 PM
  #8  
ryaneverk2's Avatar
ryaneverk2
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 4,221
Likes: 3
The fuse I mentioned is only the issue if the WTS light is not illuminating when you turn the key to Run. If the WTS light is coming on as it should, then the PCM is getting power fine.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Jan 3, 2007 | 04:26 PM
  #9  
Tuff48's Avatar
Tuff48
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: E.Tenn
checked all the fuses,all ok. gonna try a glow plug relay then if nothing else squirt some ether in.
 
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2007 | 04:28 PM
  #10  
GREGROB's Avatar
GREGROB
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 230
Likes: 0
From: Cheyenne, WY
Don't squirt ether in it with the glow plugs hooked up!
That very very bad, diesel no no, promise.

Unhook the power terminal going to the GPR if you must use ether.

Is your WTS light coming on now or not?
 
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2007 | 04:28 PM
  #11  
ryaneverk2's Avatar
ryaneverk2
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 4,221
Likes: 3
Tuff, is your WTS light coming on? If it is not, a gpr won't do anything to help the situation, nor will ether (which you should not use unless the glow plugs are turned off).

If the WTS light is still the issue, have to figure that one out, first, because if the PCM doesn't get power, the injectors won't fire.

edit - Greg, I'm sending you a telepathic message... we'll each post again in 5 minutes and we can try to post the same exact thing again.
 

Last edited by ryaneverk2; Jan 3, 2007 at 04:32 PM.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2007 | 05:01 PM
  #12  
Tuff48's Avatar
Tuff48
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: E.Tenn
wait to start light is not on. yesterday morning it came on.plugged in for a few minutes started fine. after a 10hr shift, the light did not come on and would not start. could a sensor be telling the truck its warm and the light not come on.the pcm fuses check ok. a diesel tech said a shot of ether would help fire it up????
 
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2007 | 05:36 PM
  #13  
Uzumati's Avatar
Uzumati
Post Fiend
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,497
Likes: 7
From: Central, Al
If the PCM is getting power the WTS light will come on at KEY ON no matter what. I just sent the diagram sorry for the delay. If ALL Fuses and relay prove out OK I would suspect a corrupted PCM program due to unplugging the SC while it was downloading. Give Superchips a call like clint suggested if the fuses or relays are not the issue.
 
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2007 | 05:58 PM
  #14  
Tuff48's Avatar
Tuff48
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: E.Tenn
the glow plug relay had power to one stud but not the othe with/without key ondoes this mean the relay could be the problem.
 
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2007 | 06:03 PM
  #15  
GREGROB's Avatar
GREGROB
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 230
Likes: 0
From: Cheyenne, WY
Originally Posted by Tuff48
wait to start light is not on. yesterday morning it came on.plugged in for a few minutes started fine. after a 10hr shift, the light did not come on and would not start. could a sensor be telling the truck its warm and the light not come on.the pcm fuses check ok. a diesel tech said a shot of ether would help fire it up????
I'm tellin you, don't spray ether with the gp's hooked up.

Unhook them, or don't use ether. Unless you want a tip to break off and destroy your engine, or at least make you pull the head to get it out.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:05 AM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE