gunk in filter picture
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From: Idaho City Idaho
My step son is the tool binder for the dealer; he showed me the pictures cuz he keeps telling me to stay away from the bio diesel, and i just started running it b-10, so now a am worried about my truck, going to change the filter tomarow and check everything.
I am going to analyzed to at work tomarow with some haz mat stuff
I am going to analyzed to at work tomarow with some haz mat stuff
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From: Ladner, British Columbia
Originally Posted by Phydeaux88
I dont know what it is but I can tell you what it isn't. It is not "lard coming back out of the fuel".
Once the feed stock oil has been thru the transesterification process it would have repeat the process in reverse to recreate the feed stock. That would require recreating the conditions found in in the processor with all components, including glycerol, present in the right proportions.
The only way it could be lard is if the feedstock, including lard, was simply mixed with diesel and not processed.
Was your friend truly using BD or was he one of the "mix WVO and diesel together" crowd.
Once the feed stock oil has been thru the transesterification process it would have repeat the process in reverse to recreate the feed stock. That would require recreating the conditions found in in the processor with all components, including glycerol, present in the right proportions.
The only way it could be lard is if the feedstock, including lard, was simply mixed with diesel and not processed.
Was your friend truly using BD or was he one of the "mix WVO and diesel together" crowd.
What I have learned out of this is that it is important to keep Biodiesel from freezing.
Seb...
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Originally Posted by Hamberger
One thing I have found after I froze my B40 recently is that after the B40 re-melted into a liquid it left behind traces of a margerine like substance in my fuel filter. Freezing the B40 fuel definetely altered the structure of the biofuel. I am about 3/4 of the way thru the tank that froze. Probably will need to replace the new fuel filter once the tank is done.
What I have learned out of this is that it is important to keep Biodiesel from freezing. Seb...
What I have learned out of this is that it is important to keep Biodiesel from freezing. Seb...
It is almost certain that the residue is a congealed contaminant, most likely FFAs or a mix of glycerol and FFAs.
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I've seen some astonishing differences between the BD produced from palm oil vs. soy or canola oil. Do you guys think it's possible that the BD used in this case may be palm oil based??? It gels at a much higher temp than say canola, or even soy.
The gunk in that filter, looks very much like the gunk I saw at a BD demo a couple of weeks ago in the palm oil BD example.
We know that Seattle Biodiesel often uses palm oil imported from Malaysia...could the Idaho fuel dealer have gotten it from there??
The gunk in that filter, looks very much like the gunk I saw at a BD demo a couple of weeks ago in the palm oil BD example.
We know that Seattle Biodiesel often uses palm oil imported from Malaysia...could the Idaho fuel dealer have gotten it from there??
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up date on the guy who made the bio, he worked for the place who made it not the stinker gas station
also i think they were using soy oil, I will have to check agian
also i think they were using soy oil, I will have to check agian
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That is just what fab was saying about the companies in California. They didnt finish the process and there is partial soap or glycering left over. What is the temp at that location just out of curiosity?
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Well now your getting in the type of bio diesel they are using and the temps they gel at. Mixed used oil turned to bio gels at a higher temp. Here is an example, fab has these actual numbers committed to memory
example soy bio gels say in the 40s
cannola in the 30s
corn in between and so on
Some places on I-90 and I-80 will not sell in the winter time because of this. Most 18 wheeler are used to adding antigel in extremely lower conditions then jacket weather.
example soy bio gels say in the 40s
cannola in the 30s
corn in between and so on
Some places on I-90 and I-80 will not sell in the winter time because of this. Most 18 wheeler are used to adding antigel in extremely lower conditions then jacket weather.
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