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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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correct timing on a 400

whats the proper timing on a 400 10'BDC? or what?
 
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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It depends on your engine condition, altitude, available fuel, etc. Try 10° and bump it back and forth if necessary. If the EGR is not working you will get a part throttle ping which will require getting the EGR working properly or other adjustments.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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well i have no smog what so ever, heck not even a pcv valve probly should get one.

it has a 750 edelbrock on it probly runnin rich. so i should get the timing down good then calibrate the carb or vice versa?
 
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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Get a new PCV valve installed properly and working. Set the timing at 10°, work on the carb. A 750 is too big for a 400 unless you have it really juiced up. Work on the timing and distributor then back to the carb. You will need to do this several times. Good luck!
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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sorry for cutting in. you have the same question i have. thanks
is a 650 edelbrock on a 400 too much and do you need the pcv. i raned a hose from the back breather into the carb.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:15 AM
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nah a 650 is plenty for some good mods if you decide to go that route. mine had a 750 on when i bought it and money isnt allowing a swap at this time.

so obviously if i put a 600 or slightly bigger carb my power output will be alot better as well as drivability and MPG correct? i was thinking about the new carbs that allow for higher angles of decent/acent like the edelbrock or holley truck carbs.
 

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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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i had a 750 at one time and then a buddy came along and told me it was too big and i was wasting gas. to i down sized
 
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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I tried a 750 cfm Edelbrock carb. Didn't really notice much difference in mileage or SOTP performance. (seat of the pants). Drove it on a road trip about 3 yrs ago. Went prolly 300-350 miles. Some was interstate driving, some was on a two lane, and some was on the beach, so I think that would cover most driving situations. Just my .02 worth.
 
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I just installed HEI distributor and now my aftermarket air cleaner wont fit. if I put (rig) a 3" spacer above my carb it will clear the new distributor. Would this be bad? I also set the timing at 10 degrees BTC. At 6800 ft in elevation on an old 400 should I have it somewhere else? It is still running a little rough, I guess I need the carb adjusted. I can also pull all the old ignition stuff, the new HEI really clean ups the place.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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the spacer might help it better with fuel air mixture
 
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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A 600 CFM carb is plenty big for the 400. The DS ignition is the best one available for the 400 also. It has some advantages over the GM HEI stuff.

Use an OEM style air cleaner with heat riser to eliminate carb icing. Most people think it is emissions "junk" but it is not. It is performance "junk". As far as what type of aircleaner to use since the OEM won't fit an Edelbrock etc. Use a big Mopar or GM truck unit. They have bigger air filters than Ford. Just remove the GM or Mopar air snorkels and put one or two Ford snorkels on with big snowmobile track pop rivets. Hook up the heat riser tube to the pass side snorkel and block off the driver side heat riser inlet.

There are a number of threads here on air cleaners and carb icing. Most people are totally unaware of the problem.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 10:59 PM
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so proper timing, 3500 miles on a reman 400, live here in norfolk virginia. what should i be running the timing? do i need to adgust it for the different times of the year?
 
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 11:46 PM
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Reman 400 would be low compression but it still depends on whether you have EGR or not. See post #2. With a stock distributor and no EGR you will get part throttle "EGR" ping unless the vacuum advance is adjusted. Timing does not have to be adjusted for time of year.

The PCV valve was the best thing to happen to engines since Henry Ford. Always get the PCV system hooked up properly.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Simply put , I read somewhere that with these low comp engines ,they like a base timing around 15-18 and total of 34 or so . To do this you have to install a stop for total . Please feedback only from someone who has done this , not thought about it . Larry
 
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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8 degrees. Simple.
 
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