all a hemi is, is the design of the block anyhow..matter of fact the new tundra by toyota is a hemi design...except for it wont die after 20,000 miles..they are saying it may be over 400 horsepower....yeah right

 

I always chuckle at these Hemi comparisons. I always hear that my tuner equipped, monster exhaust equipped diesel, or my V10 is faster than a hemi. But, neither of these engines are the hemi's competition. Why do I never hear, my stock 5.4 triton is faster than a stock hemi? Because it isn't, and I know as I own a 5.4 powerd superduty, and a hemi will smoke it at any time. (been there and done that) Comparing a hemi to the V10 or a tuned deisel is comparing apples to oranges.

 

^Finally someone who is sensible. Bravo to you as its tough to find folks willing to put aside bias on this site.

That aside, I could pick your brain for hours regarding your truck as I'm looking into a 5.4 SD. How is the power on it? Overall impressions of the truck etc.

 

I really don't know much about the hemi, but I think most of these comments had to do with the "attitude" of those that drive the hemi. Of course it is a reasonable comparison if that is what Dodge puts out there as competition for the V-10.

 

It's actually the combustion chamber, IE the underside of the head.

It's shaped like half of a hemisphere IE a half hemi.

 

So then by that logic it's not fair to compare Dodge's 5.9L I 6 diesel to Ford's 7.3L and 6.0L V-8 because it's not Dodge's competition to the Powerstroke. Same thing with the V-10 and GM's 8.1L V-8, which is a vastly different and larger displacement engine than the V-10.

If you're in the pickup market, it seems fair to compare the competitor's top of the line gas engine regardless of displacement. Same with diesel engines.

So, if you want a go-fast gas engine in a Dodge, what's your best option? Is that not what should be compared to Ford's V-10?

Put a top of the line Ford against a top of the line Dodge, and I guess you could say, it's no competition.

 

Personally, I was comparing V8 engines from each as the 8.1 from GM and the V10 from Ford are very rare options. The 5.4, 6.0, and 5.7 are all the mainstream engine offered in 3/4-1ton trucks. You are right though that Dodge only offers 1 gas engine in their 3/4-1ton trucks to Ford and GM offering 2. Comparing the I6 cummin's and powerstroke/duramax is obvious as its the diesel offering from each-although Dodge does offer 2 different versions of the Cummins-HO and non HO. But please lets not turn this into a Cummins vs Powerstroke thread.

 

To be honest the attitude comes from all sides which is obvious from this thread. Ford guys have love for Ford, Chevy loves Chevy, Dodge loves Dodge. The HEMI is a great performing engine that has a lot of power and it was something that Dodge was lacking with the 5.9. Sure the 5.9 had plenty of low end torque but lacked mid to high RPM power-The HEMI cured that and thensome. I think a big issue with the HEMI is that since it makes most of its power up high that people feel it doesn't have "as much" down low, when in fact it has plenty of low end torque which has been proven through many dyno's. Lastly, the HEMI is harped on so much about being a high revving motor but everyone seems to forget that the 6.0 from GM is the same way and that the 5.4 has low end torque but runs out of breath fast.

If the Hurricane ever comes out then the Hurricane will be what Ford guys hold up on a pedistal and the Chevy and Dodge guys will be bashing it as well even if it is a better performer.

Like someone said before- Chevy, Dodge, or Ford Buy American-From an American manufacturer. Ford is really hurting now with sales and is behind DCX and Toyota along with GM slowing production. All the while Toyota is selling more and Honda isn't far behind.

 

my tail gate right over the f250 emblem is HEMI THIS! under the f250 i added a v10 triton fender emblem! plus on my divers door is now 8 little rams head decals all lined up and showing my kills. over rated junk semihemi. sure a true hemi with dished pistons.

those of you with the psd's have no problem smoking them ,i do it with gas and have fun

 

Since we're grouping HEMI's together, try racing a "semi" HEMI SRT8 Grand Cherokee

 

Captain, everytime you post that picture or use that phrase....you owe me.

 

Wow, where do people come up with this stuff???

 

I was at the Anaheim Auto show recently....the new Tundra chassis was displayed. The new V8 is a 5.7 liter, but it doesn't put out 400HP...it was more like 375 or so...but that's at the crank...good for bragging rights only...what I wanna see is dyno results...what's at the rear wheels...and the true torque specs also.

There was no mention in the literature of the 5.7 being a hemi...semi or otherwise.

And the frame on those Tundras is not boxed either...I have the pics.

 

It won't be a hemi.......like EVERY 4 valve motor out there,
it'll be a pent roof chamber.
A crossflow head with a flat chamber that looks somewhat
like a clover leaf.


The Dodge semi-hemi does have a cross flow head and with
the valve angles it has a suprisingly large domed chamber...
but the there is squish areas on either side of the chamber.


Much like the non-NASCAR BOSS 429's, semi-hemi, or in the case
of the Dodge a "double" crescent chamber would be a more
appropriate name but wouldn't sound as cool.

 

I kinda agree with that....to an extent.

The thing is, in 3/4 ton guise the hemi is the top gasser for Dodge.....
so the comparison to the other top gas offerings is fair IMHO.

HOWEVER,

Unlike a LOT of people here, I don't think our mighty V10
4WD, Crew Cabs can take the 1/2 ton regular cab hemi....just too much weight to overcome.