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P/S fluid coolers. Ford offered a cooler on 1960's T-Birds, Galaxies and Mercs with FE engines. This is a finned U shaped device that mounts upright to the P/S pump. They are difficult to find because many have been scrounged for use as an auxilliary trans cooler and rear end cooler on race cars and off road vehicles.
Made from 1961-1964. Adaptable to anything, as the P/S return line was originally connected to one side, and then from the other side the hose returns back to the pump. No special fittings required.
Made from 1961-1964. Adaptable to anything, as the P/S return line was originally connected to one side, and then from the other side the hose returns back to the pump. No special fittings required.
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Carl, I'd be interested in knowing how far apart our '68s serial numbers are. They both came out of the San Jose plant, both equipped pretty much the same...I believe you mentioned before that yours is an early '68 identifiable by the side reflectors rather than clearance lights. Mine is the same...
Bill, I know exactly the coolers you refer to. I still have one or two of them somewhere. I like them, though Carl and I have discussed this topic before and he feels they're not adequate for the job. Considering how many vehicles were built with no P/S coolers at all, I feel they have to be better than nothing.
Bill, I know exactly the coolers you refer to. I still have one or two of them somewhere. I like them, though Carl and I have discussed this topic before and he feels they're not adequate for the job. Considering how many vehicles were built with no P/S coolers at all, I feel they have to be better than nothing.
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Dan; on vin numbers I have F25YRC17797.
On the PS cooler I have one mounted on a piece of angle iron bolted between the bottom frame rails just above the tranny cooler which spans the frame width. The cooler is a standard Ford part on newer trucks pt# F81A-3D746-AC. It is 6 3/8"x4"x13/16" thick with a handy mounting bracket arms on the ends. Inlet and outlet both on one end. Been so long but thinking $43 each.
The only time the PS pump reservoir gets warm is from engine heat soak at shutdown or if the ambient temps are above 90 F.
Dan, I may have sent you photos of the coolers in the past.
On the PS cooler I have one mounted on a piece of angle iron bolted between the bottom frame rails just above the tranny cooler which spans the frame width. The cooler is a standard Ford part on newer trucks pt# F81A-3D746-AC. It is 6 3/8"x4"x13/16" thick with a handy mounting bracket arms on the ends. Inlet and outlet both on one end. Been so long but thinking $43 each.
The only time the PS pump reservoir gets warm is from engine heat soak at shutdown or if the ambient temps are above 90 F.
Dan, I may have sent you photos of the coolers in the past.
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I suspect so...they're probably in my archives somewhere, I'll have to take a look.
My VIN is F25YRD03153...so I guess it's a few units after yours. I sent away to Ford for the build sheet, it came back as being manufactured on 4/27/68.
My VIN is F25YRD03153...so I guess it's a few units after yours. I sent away to Ford for the build sheet, it came back as being manufactured on 4/27/68.
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Originally Posted by Beemer Nut
That would be a caster problem not camber preventing the wheel going back to the straight ahead position.
TigerDan; a Bendix box in that late of truck?
For others, (you to Dan) get the lower column mounting bracket on the firewall as well the left motor perch.
As for coolers that POS loop Ford used as a cooler must of been allowed by their bean counters, it's a joke.
Add the cooler that Super Duty trucks of around 2000 used.
The Thompson pump used on Bendix and Saginaw boxes are identical in internal parts and pressures. After going thru 11 pumps of different years and boxes, tested pressure relief springs, all were the same.
TigerDan; a Bendix box in that late of truck?
For others, (you to Dan) get the lower column mounting bracket on the firewall as well the left motor perch.
As for coolers that POS loop Ford used as a cooler must of been allowed by their bean counters, it's a joke.
Add the cooler that Super Duty trucks of around 2000 used.
The Thompson pump used on Bendix and Saginaw boxes are identical in internal parts and pressures. After going thru 11 pumps of different years and boxes, tested pressure relief springs, all were the same.
glad you clarified that. it's been a long week! that said, i'm curious if other trucks of the same vintage experience similar problems......
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Dan; I could not get that build sheet forum to work for me last year.
Favor, could you run my vin numbers thru them PM the results?
Eastwood movie "I gots to know".
On your Rover if yours has a serpentine belt the idler tensioner bearing is a no name or number cheapo POS that will fail just beyond the time it starts sounding dry. Check yours after removing belt. On the 95 Disco it's replaceable at Napa Auto, SKF bearing #6203-2ZJ $10.68. Mine took a dump and spit ***** during a funeral, oops no alternator, PS and water pump. Nice during a holiday weekend when bearing supply shops are closed. A one hour delay I repaired on the street and drove home.
Between normal temp and climbing to park it is one block at 30 mph with these full aluminum motors. thermostats can take a dump and not open, another over temp problem.
Favor, could you run my vin numbers thru them PM the results?
Eastwood movie "I gots to know".
On your Rover if yours has a serpentine belt the idler tensioner bearing is a no name or number cheapo POS that will fail just beyond the time it starts sounding dry. Check yours after removing belt. On the 95 Disco it's replaceable at Napa Auto, SKF bearing #6203-2ZJ $10.68. Mine took a dump and spit ***** during a funeral, oops no alternator, PS and water pump. Nice during a holiday weekend when bearing supply shops are closed. A one hour delay I repaired on the street and drove home.
Between normal temp and climbing to park it is one block at 30 mph with these full aluminum motors. thermostats can take a dump and not open, another over temp problem.
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that said, i'm curious if other trucks of the same vintage experience similar problems......
Carl, I sent away to Ford for the build sheet which they mailed to me. As I recall I entered the info into their website and they emailed me back requesting further info. Here's the email address:
crcfmc@ford.com
It's the Ford Customer Service Division, don't have the website handy though. I don't think I bookmarked it but I'll look.
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Thanks Dan, I will try my vin numbers again with that address.
As far as caster allowing the truck to center return my 68 still does it after replacing the Bendix box with a Saginaw box. The truck has a standard stock stance with butt in the air and 6,900 GVW. springs.
I have 9.50 x 16.5 front, 12.00 x 16.5 rear.
Fronts run 48-50 psi with 24 in the rear as I run empty 99.9% of the time.
To let the front drop to below 42 psi center return becomes sluggish.
If I get the rear lowered 2 1/4" when empty it will increase caster and center return besides a better stance plus easier to load motorcycles.
As far as caster allowing the truck to center return my 68 still does it after replacing the Bendix box with a Saginaw box. The truck has a standard stock stance with butt in the air and 6,900 GVW. springs.
I have 9.50 x 16.5 front, 12.00 x 16.5 rear.
Fronts run 48-50 psi with 24 in the rear as I run empty 99.9% of the time.
To let the front drop to below 42 psi center return becomes sluggish.
If I get the rear lowered 2 1/4" when empty it will increase caster and center return besides a better stance plus easier to load motorcycles.
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