heard a rumor
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From: McNairy county, TN.
I have seen a group of '05 or so ford super duty's running up and down I-65 towing TT's. now most would say "so What". theres hundreds of em up and down the interstates. But these are not running CB's, Running in convoy, and have some kind of small metal plate on the rear part of the roof. And i guess the tip off for me might have been the Michigan manafacturers tags on the trucks. so this is where they are getting there test miles in i'm guessing on the new 6.4's
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I think Ford has learned from the 6.0 and has put the time and money into biulding a great my'08.. I'm sure the 10 million miles thing is going well. 10million miles and no trouble is alittle hard to believe, but i think the trouble is not going to come from the engine but from the add ons(soot trap...emissions crap...etc...). i'll wait for late '08's or '09s they should have most things ironed out by then.
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It shouldn't matter how long or hard a truck is run or what it is used for. Diesels are supposed to be tougher than gasoline engines and therefore worth the extra money. Sitting on a lot should not hurt a brand new truck. I have a friend with a 6.0 and he's heard three or four different ways the motors are supposed to be used to make them last. That should not be an issue. If you want a reliable Ford motor these days, buy a gas motor, don't waste the extra money on an unreliable diesel. The only diesel motor that's been proven reliable in my opinion is the cummins motors in dodges from 89-93. Look at those if you want to see a real diesel pickup.
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Originally Posted by hotrodcaprice
It shouldn't matter how long or hard a truck is run or what it is used for. Diesels are supposed to be tougher than gasoline engines and therefore worth the extra money. Sitting on a lot should not hurt a brand new truck. I have a friend with a 6.0 and he's heard three or four different ways the motors are supposed to be used to make them last. That should not be an issue. If you want a reliable Ford motor these days, buy a gas motor, don't waste the extra money on an unreliable diesel. The only diesel motor that's been proven reliable in my opinion is the cummins motors in dodges from 89-93. Look at those if you want to see a real diesel pickup.
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yeah but wait till these trucks go to assembly line and are "mass" produced. then the random "bad" trucks show up. not these meticulously hand built counter parts they are testing. hopefully then they don't cut one item for another cheaper part to shave a couple here and there. and then you could end up with the same thing. i guess we will all see.
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I see those trucks for sale all the time with over 400k and still running strong so how's that for longevity? I don't know where you come up with the idea that the old 5.9 Cummins is not as good as all the new diesel motors available. It's not, evidently it's better. I'd trade some emissions for characteristics diesels are supposed to have like DURABILITY. I'd be glad to move on with technology if it was better but I can't see where it is. Change is good ONLY if it's for the better. Maybe if you'd read what I said you'd know I am talking about Dodge, NOT Ford. You even quoted me and still didn't catch it, don't let your anger blind you.
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alright hot rod relax. you are to new to already be picking a fight. the main issue is rust inside the turbos within the variable vanes. now the old trucks were awesome. the old cummins and the old psd did last alot longer with fewer issues. but the thing is the trailors are getting bigger, campers are getting longer, and the government is getting stricter. the emission level has become very small on diesels, and basically the emmisions requirements is the root of all evil here. but with ulsd fuel it will get better, bad thing we needed this fuel 4 years ago.
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Originally Posted by hotrodcaprice
I see those trucks for sale all the time with over 400k and still running strong so how's that for longevity? I don't know where you come up with the idea that the old 5.9 Cummins is not as good as all the new diesel motors available. It's not, evidently it's better. I'd trade some emissions for characteristics diesels are supposed to have like DURABILITY. I'd be glad to move on with technology if it was better but I can't see where it is. Change is good ONLY if it's for the better. Maybe if you'd read what I said you'd know I am talking about Dodge, NOT Ford. You even quoted me and still didn't catch it, don't let your anger blind you.
On another note, its good to hear that ford is making an effort to make a good engine to put in our trucks.
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I love all the older engines too, but we can't look backwards. The days of the 7.3 and 12V Cummins are all over and done with. Emissions are far more strict, and as stated by BowTieHatr, people are doing much more with their pickups than ever before. Technology is something we all take for granted. Of course more things are going to break with more parts and equipment attatched. It's not easy to perfect on the first try. I'm sure manufacturers like Navistar, Cummins, Caterpillar etc. are doing everything in their power to make their products reliable and long lasting. We can admit the 6.0 was a bad engine in comparison to others, but that's because the lack of testing was there. This 6.4 PSD should be a winner. I just wonder what's gonna happen in 2010 when emissions get even more stringent...
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We all hope and pray they got it right. But in the real world they will be driven differently. I think all the techs would agree if you take any 06 6.0's and ran the crap out of them for hours on end they would also preform equally well. The problems are coming from Lot Rot and letting them sit for long periods of time. Running them round the clock is not a real world test. They also tested the 6.0 extensively and they were also rerported to be flawless. I believe they ran them for over 6 months or more before they hit the showrooms.
I also have my fingers crossed that this is the cats meow!!!!!!! We all know Ford can use a homerun this time at the plate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I also have my fingers crossed that this is the cats meow!!!!!!! We all know Ford can use a homerun this time at the plate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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If this helps any, Im a big superhooty fan and on my way to Tec school i see the same one. I can count on seeing it every day. Im driving to school Wensday and do you guys think that i could catch up to him and ask him about it. They get off the exit that i do and i think he stops at the gas station. I wonder if he will talk to me?
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Originally Posted by THE KING
If this helps any, Im a big superhooty fan and on my way to Tec school i see the same one. I can count on seeing it every day. Im driving to school Wensday and do you guys think that i could catch up to him and ask him about it. They get off the exit that i do and i think he stops at the gas station. I wonder if he will talk to me?