53 with a 460 / c6 combo ?
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53 with a 460 / c6 combo ?
i have come across a 460 with a c-6 and would like to adapt them to my 53 truck. presently i have the flathead still in use. i would like to know what type of problems i might run into using the new combo. i can handle new mounts and driveshaft woes but what about cooling? is this a big issue or an easy fix. what about exhaust problems(what headers to use). if anyone out there has pulled this swap off i would love to hear from ya. maybe you can let me know how this will work thanks
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53 with a 460 / c6 combo ?
I'm in the process of doing one... plan on getting a new aluminum radiator to handle the cooling... don't thing the stock unit will do it.. I originally started out with a volare front clip... fabbed all the mounts and hit the wall when I tried Sanderson headers... no room with the volare steering box..
My plan now is to remove the volare front clip and install a Heidt's Mustang II front suspension... big change, large $$ but the only solution... 460's are big and would probably work with the volare and stock exhaust manifolds.. I've seen several at P.F. over the years... it's a doable swap but with headers...I don't think so..
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My plan now is to remove the volare front clip and install a Heidt's Mustang II front suspension... big change, large $$ but the only solution... 460's are big and would probably work with the volare and stock exhaust manifolds.. I've seen several at P.F. over the years... it's a doable swap but with headers...I don't think so..
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53 with a 460 / c6 combo ?
i forgot to mention that my truck is bone stock.
Can i use the 460 with the stock front end? i've read on this site about problems clearing the steering box on other swaps, will the 460 in a 1953 have the same problem? will i have to cut any porton from under the hood away to fit the 460 in the truck? will my stock rear end need to be replaced? if i need to replace the radiator , which can i use to provide sufficient cooling? i'm new to this, as you can tell and i have a lotta questions thanks
Can i use the 460 with the stock front end? i've read on this site about problems clearing the steering box on other swaps, will the 460 in a 1953 have the same problem? will i have to cut any porton from under the hood away to fit the 460 in the truck? will my stock rear end need to be replaced? if i need to replace the radiator , which can i use to provide sufficient cooling? i'm new to this, as you can tell and i have a lotta questions thanks
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53 with a 460 / c6 combo ?
I would think you'd have plenty of room with the stock axle... not sure if the original suspension can handle the weight.. a complete 460 comes in at about 700-800 pounds.. might have to trim the inner fenders a little.. some of the others on the site might give you better info... I scraped my straight axle as soon as I got it for the Volare clip..
the rearend I think was a dana 60 and they are strong... but do you want a 50 year old set of gears behind that 460 ?? the drive shaft will have to be redone for sure... the 460/c6 is a longer engine/trans than stock flathead or yblock
stock radiator won't get it. but you can order stock 'looking' aluminum units with sufficient cooling SRS makes one as well as Walker and I think US Radiator..
I think the first answer you need to get is if the stock front suspension will handle the weight and will you be able to steer it with that much weight and no power steering...
ask on the 460 forumn or again on this one about the stock stuff
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the rearend I think was a dana 60 and they are strong... but do you want a 50 year old set of gears behind that 460 ?? the drive shaft will have to be redone for sure... the 460/c6 is a longer engine/trans than stock flathead or yblock
stock radiator won't get it. but you can order stock 'looking' aluminum units with sufficient cooling SRS makes one as well as Walker and I think US Radiator..
I think the first answer you need to get is if the stock front suspension will handle the weight and will you be able to steer it with that much weight and no power steering...
ask on the 460 forumn or again on this one about the stock stuff
john
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53 with a 460 / c6 combo ?
I don't know the weight of the original old engines, but they are pretty heavy. Your original rear axle is an old Dana 44, somewhat related to the newer 44's, but not enough to be able to buy gears for it. If you don't put any weight in the back, it will probably last for awhile, because I think you will find when it's all said and done, with the original 3.90 to 1 ratio all that will happen is the tires will go up in smoke, and the truck will go nowhere. That's what mine would do with a 351c/c4, so I can imagine a 460 will only be worse.
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did the 351 require any cutting of the inner fender walls on your truck? I don't have to use the 460 a 351 would be fine. i don't want to cut my truck. how well did your exhaust fit?
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The engine fit perfect. I set it down in the engine bay and was worried about fan-radiator clearance, oil pan clearance, and firewall clearance. I hung it there with the lift and there was no decisions to be made. There was a spot + or - a couple of inches where everything fit perfect. The front sump pan fit perfectly with the stock straight axle. I made my own engine mount/crossmember. I used the original factory rubber engine mounts, and the holes where the long bolt goes through the mount, were about a 1/2" above the lower c-channel section of the frame(this determined the engine height I picked). I then used 73 mustang 351c headers. They fit perfect in the engine compartment, going right around the steering box, but they did hit the original rear crossmember. This crossmember needs to be modified and re-installed. If you look at where the crossmember is, it is right at the rear mounts for the front springs, which keeps the frame from flexing in this area. And if you modify it so you can remove it, it makes getting to the tranny easier. The rear crossmember I made out of a straight piece of 1 1/2" square tubing, with a small piece of angle iron welded front and center to bolt the rubber tranny mount to.
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53 with a 460 / c6 combo ?
The V8 flatty is actually a lightweight, around 575 lbs fully dressed compared to almost 800 for a 429/460 as mentioned.
A 351W is a much nicer choice plus there are plentiful (cheap) performance and dress up goodies available.
While the engine is out do yourself a big favor and go through the complete suspension and steering. That original setup will ride very nice with new parts and some Diamondback WWW radials.
A 351W is a much nicer choice plus there are plentiful (cheap) performance and dress up goodies available.
While the engine is out do yourself a big favor and go through the complete suspension and steering. That original setup will ride very nice with new parts and some Diamondback WWW radials.
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