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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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Are all y-blocks the same?

I've found a 1964 Y-block 292 fairly recently rebuilt. Will this mount and bolt to my 3-speed overdrive tranny in my 55 F100? I currently have a 223 inline six and want a little more power and drivability but still want to use the overdrive tranny. The 55 had as an option a 232 y-block.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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I don't know, but these guys will:

http://members.aol.com/Yblock/YBLOCK.htm

http://www.ford-y-block.com/yblockpage.htm

There's also a Y-Block forum here on FTE. Good luck, and welcome! This site is a fantastic source of info!
 
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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Talking Thanks for help on y-blocks.

Thanks for your help! Obviously, I am a newbe to the site. This site is awesome!
 

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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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Howdy,

You will need to get the bell housing with the 292 but it should fit.

I recently had a 60 292 rebuild for my 55 F-600.

It originally had a 223 in it and someone back when I was in grade school put a 239 v-8 in it. I'm pretty sure that the T-98 is original though.


I got the bell housing that came with the 292 and it was almost identical to the one the 239 was bolted to. Either one will work here.... The flywheel was the same and the clutch/pressure plate were the same too.


Try to get the front engine mount and cross member from the donor truck if you can. This way you'll be able to use the double point front mount in the newer trucks. The older ones only had a single mount point in the front putting ALL the torque forces on the rear (bell housing) mounts. When those mounts get oily they wear out faster when they are the only ones providing the torque support. It's not a big deal....but that's why Ford went to four point mounts in the later trucks. I don't know what year they did this. Just about all the sixes had a single point mount in the front. But it didn't produce the torque of a 292!



Regards,

Rick










Originally Posted by bolivious
I've found a 1964 Y-block 292 fairly recently rebuilt. Will this mount and bolt to my 3-speed overdrive tranny in my 55 F100? I currently have a 223 inline six and want a little more power and drivability but still want to use the overdrive tranny. The 55 had as an option a 232 y-block.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:31 AM
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Thanks much for all the great info! I will try and get the front cross-member.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:46 AM
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ALL Y block engines of this family: 239; 256; 272; 292; 312 are basically the same. Mounts, oil pans, bellhousings, etc. will be different depending on applications.


The 239 was 1954 only...oddly it was the same c/i as the 1953 Flathead it replaced..which causes confusion today.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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I did a little measuring on the donor truck (1960 F-100) and mine. It appears that the front mount is quite different where the front 2-point pads mount. I am going to have to make a separate cross piece for the front mount points to connect to. It will take some 3/16" x 5 inch channel stock and a power hacksaw. I'll probably build it so I can easily bolt it to the frame in existing holes.

I am convinced that this'll work better, be stronger and result in less engine movement in the mounts.

The 239 was available in 55 also but it was probably identical to the 54 engine. There are LOTS of variations of the 239 OHV engines now since a lot of parts from other Y-blocks fit. Mine had a 14 tooth distributor on it and matching cam.....It also had a 272 manifold on it.

We are lucky to have all the people here with all the Y-block experience......I know I would be lost if I couldn't come here with all my HARD questions!


Cheers,

Rick
 
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by HT32BSX115
We are lucky to have all the people here with all the Y-block experience......I know I would be lost if I couldn't come here with all my HARD questions! Cheers, Rick
They`re only hard for guys like me that don`t know the correct answer or forgot it.
 
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