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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 07:13 AM
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Hint - both are Wyoming class. Again look closely at the "two" ships.
It's the same boat.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 07:22 AM
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Look at placement of secondary armament below the bridge in the second pic...that's the Arkie...circa 1930's.

Wyoming in top pic (as originally built) has different arrangement...

These were the only US BB's that had 12 12" guns.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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USS Intrepid was my last ship before I was discharged 4-28-71.
DetailerDave, were you squadron or ships company? The old man was onboard her back in 66 with VS-26. I would love to go see her someday and see how you guys had it as compared to what we have today.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Both pics appear to be Wyoming class...Florida (Utah) had a different turret arrangement (I think).

Wyoming-Arkansas 12 12" 6X2
Florida-Utah 10 12" 5X2

HMS Agincourt 14 12" 7X2!

USS Utah Memorial is at PH...NW side of Ford Island. Not well known, btw.
Originally Posted by Joelski
It's the same boat.
Yep. I cheated a little. USS Arkansas before and after major mast modification.

Those were some kind of heavy ........
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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DetailerDave, were you squadron or ships company? The old man was onboard her back in 66 with VS-26. I would love to go see her someday and see how you guys had it as compared to what we have today.
Ship's company. EM2. Came off a sub to her. What a change!
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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I don't know a lot about navy ships, but I went to see the battleship North Carolina last year. That is what I'd call a MAJOR APPLIANCE!
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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I don't know a lot about navy ships, but I went to see the battleship North Carolina last year. That is what I'd call a MAJOR APPLIANCE!
If you think that's a major appliance, what would you call one of the new carriers?
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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That would be a "F****** MAJOR APPLIANCE.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 09:07 AM
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USN to the rescue.....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,228830,00.html
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by alchymist
Yep. I cheated a little. USS Arkansas before and after major mast modification.

Those were some kind of heavy ........
I tried to prove you wrong...till I found the exact pics you posted....My questioning your original answer had to do with the sponsons added for secondary armament below the bridge shown in the Arkie post 1930 picture...one photo I found showed Wyoming without it...but after further research, found that the pic titled "Wyoming" in one of my ref books was mis-titled.

My apologizies.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 04:25 AM
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No apologies necessary - if we can't discuss & discover, what are we doing here? And these old ships are fascinating.......
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 06:39 AM
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I'll get in on this love-fest by saying I WAGed it. The pics look the same structurally with the exception that someone got a boat improvement loan and added on.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 06:39 AM
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I'll get in on this love-fest by saying I WAGed it. The pics look the same structurally with the exception that someone got a boat improvement loan and added on.
PS: Post more planes!
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 06:54 AM
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PPS: Post more ships...I have refs on them.

Regarding Arkansas and Wyoming...the Wyoming served as a gunnery training ship till 1946, when the Mississippi took over.

The Arkie, besides having mast modifications also had two funnels trunked into one, new secondary armament added, extensive bridge work, etc. The Arkie was laid up prior to WWII, but removed in 1942...it served throughout the war...later having multiple AA added wherever space could be found, for service in the Pacific.

The Arkie sank in seconds at Bikini Atoll, during the first A-test.

There's a terrific book called "Ghost Fleet" a underwater pictorial of what the ships at Bikini look like today.

And regardless of what you might have read, the Prinz Eugen is not underwater at Bikini as reported in 1947. It was towed to Kwajelain Atoll, where it lies partially sunk, today.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:03 AM
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PS: Post more planes!
OK, You asked for it.....
 
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