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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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Torque Converter installed improperly

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When you go to install this engine be very carefull to have the torque converter installed all the way into the transmission or you will have one heck of a heartbreak. Anyone that has installed a few engines in automatic setups will tell you to check and double check that the converter is in the tranny all the way or when you try to tighten the tranny bell housing bolts you will break and or bend something.

The way I check it is to rotate and push the converter in at the same time. When it is as far as it will go in then you will not be able to squeeze your fingers in around the back of the converter (very close fit). Take your time and check things closely since this is your first time.
I have one 'heck of a heartbreak' on my hands. I build houses not trucks so i figured I could just cram that sum'mum'a'itch in there and suck the two tight with my house'n bolts. Yea, No, first major undertakeing was a complete failure and I am ready to right my wrong. Was wondering what I am going to need to inspect while I have my rig in pieces as a result of my 'grind it til' it fits mentallity. Feedback is appreciated.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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As you now know, it's extremely important to get the torque converter in all the way.

We need to know what transmission you have. I'm guessing an E4OD.

Chances are you probably broke the front pump. They are aluminum and not cheap to replace (about $200-300 bucks.) Depending on if any damage was done to the torque converter, that might need some attention too.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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I beleive the transmission is an AOD. I have the 14 pan bolts with matching physical characteristics and follow the P-R-N-OD-D-1 pattern. Still in the process of pulling my tranny out. Will update 11-05-06 at the earliest.
Jon - Tonka Framing - Colo.Sprgs
 
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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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the first rule of working on an automotive vehicle is: do not force anything.

i hope it was not too expensive a lesson.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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This should hit just hard enough in the wallet to change that mentality but not so hard you give up.

Chances are the front pump will need replaced.. The converter is pretty hardy, so unless it just gouged the splines, you should be ok with having a parts house clean it up for you.

In either case, there's no doubt to as when the converter finds home when you're installing it. There's that unmistaking metal on metal when it does.

Let us know what you find.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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Was looking for a retailer I can purchase my replacement 'gear pump' from. Also, I frequent a "U-pull U-save" junkyard down here. Wondering if its worth the 300 to get a brand new pump or try my hand at a used one.
Jon - Tonka Framing - ColoSprgs
 

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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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Grab the sledge, trannys out

Alright. Just wheeled my AOD transmission out from under the truck. Issues encountered while removing it included heavy tension on the last 2 of 6 tranny to engine mounting bolts and an ungodly amount of pressure on the third bolt connecting the flywheel to converter...other then that, and the thing dumping over on my hand in the last leg of the process it was a clean removal.
This is where I am in need of some input. The torque converter looks fine to me. Flywheel is straighter then most of the houses I build. Everything looks good to my untrained eye. Just need to know what to look for and what its going to look like that I need to address/fix/superglue back together. Would be helpful if someone knew torque specs on flywheel to converter and tran to engine bolts as well, even red face, white knuckled, or blue balled torque rating would help. Appreciate it.
Jon - Tonka Framing - Colo.Sprgs
 

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