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I've got a 1951 Ford F6 dump truck with 8.25 x 20 tires on the original split rims. I've heard differing stories about these rims and am trying to figure out what the truth is. I do know most tire shops won't work on them. I also read somewhere (I think V8 times) that they are NOT illegal. I know there are alot of these still out there on older, big trucks. Any comments? Thanks.
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51, in Missouri they are still legal, they run alot of split rims on construction type trucks, concrete and dump trucks.But like you said very few tire places will will on them .Ive changed many of them , you have to respect them when your working with them.
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I personally haven't found a time when I don't respect them, but during inflation would certainly be one of the more critical times.[/FONT]
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I personally haven't found a time when I don't respect them, but during inflation would certainly be one of the more critical times.[/FONT]
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I have a 49 F-3 with 7.50-17's and recently got new tires for it and found the problem you mentioned-nobody would put them together.I had heard all the horror stories of losing heads and legs and other assorted body parts from a friend who had experience with these tires.He told me just beat the retaining rim on with the notch lined up with the valve stem hole,wrap a chain around the tire and fill it to 30 psi,watching to make sure the ring does'nt ****.Then put the tire on the truck and fill it up all the way.
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I agree strongly with NOT using the chain idea!! When I worked in a heavy duty trailer factory, about fifteen years ago, I mounted a lot of new split rims wheels. We assembled them on the floor and ALWAYS put them in a tire cage for at least twenty minutes and even after that time I was a little leary of them. Like I said these were new one not fifty year old used and abused with rust. The management had a few articles on the wall that detailed some accidents with these monsters and they weren't pretty! It isn't worth cutting corners to save a few bucks.
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We still use a lot of split rims on the larger military vehicles. Soldiers are injured or killed every year and the reason is always the same, failing to use the cage. Another caution is that the rings are hazardous when re-inflating a tire that has gone completely flat from sitting. Not just when changing a tire. The chain method is not even approved anymore for combat situations.
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if the rims you are talking about are the ones that have the seam in the center of the tire like mine were, ford called them two piece rims. the rims are ileagle in new jersey. nobody will work on them and they are not even alowed to run on the road.i bought the newer style split rims from a tireshop for $50 each.
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My 50 F-5 project is almost done and needs tires. I have the chance to buy decent F-4 that is running and has 6 near new tires on the 2-piece rims. I was considering buying it for the rims and tires, swapping, then selling the F-4 with my old tires even if I lose a few $$$$.
Supposedly, he paid 1500-1800 for the tires/tubes and mounted them himself. Coker wants $154 ea plus shipping.
Is there any danger with rims/tires that have been mounted and driven a while?
Or, is there a modern wheel/tire combo, 5-lug, that can be used instead? Truck has 7.50-20 tires.
Supposedly, he paid 1500-1800 for the tires/tubes and mounted them himself. Coker wants $154 ea plus shipping.
Is there any danger with rims/tires that have been mounted and driven a while?
Or, is there a modern wheel/tire combo, 5-lug, that can be used instead? Truck has 7.50-20 tires.
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I have split rims on my 48 F3 here in Indiana and haven't had any trouble. Once when I replaced a tire the service tech kinda laughed about the split rim horror stories. His take on it was "if you do it right and use a cage, there should be no problem.
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Ive a 54 F350 with the original 17" Budd split rims. There are 2 types, actually 3 if you count the Dayton wheel.
The Budd is split in the middle and as far as I know is legal in all states if it came as original equipment.
Go to a truck garage or a tire company that specializes on real trucks. They work on them daily.
You can also get the Budd style in one piece from many wheel companies, designed for radials. I believe Ford called them 17.5 size in the 60's.
The Budd is split in the middle and as far as I know is legal in all states if it came as original equipment.
Go to a truck garage or a tire company that specializes on real trucks. They work on them daily.
You can also get the Budd style in one piece from many wheel companies, designed for radials. I believe Ford called them 17.5 size in the 60's.