Still having problems with 1996 Explorer starting
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Still having problems with 1996 Explorer starting
When I try to start my Explorer I just get one loud click, and I here a pump running, but no engine cranking. I replaced the starter but I still cant get it to even try to crank. Like I said in an earlier post my wife drove it through about knee deep water and it just died and wouldnt start again. I am at a loss, if anyone has any suggestions on what this might be please help me out. Thanks in advance.
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It's all battery and ground as far as a starter is concerned. I would be taking a serious look at the main power/ground cables. Especially where the connectors crimp on the ends. Corrosion does some nasty things to the connection internally.
Take a voltmeter to the main starter terminal and measure the voltage when a helper tries to crank it over. The voltage should not drop lower than ~10 Volts, if so start hunting for the bad battery connection. If it doesnt drop at all, then suspect a ground return cabling problem.
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Take a voltmeter to the main starter terminal and measure the voltage when a helper tries to crank it over. The voltage should not drop lower than ~10 Volts, if so start hunting for the bad battery connection. If it doesnt drop at all, then suspect a ground return cabling problem.
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I charged my battery today and reinstalled it. I turned the key over and I popped the power point fuse in the power distribution box under the hood. It is a 30 amp fuse. Does anyone know how this could have happened or exactly what the power point fuse protects? Any help will be appreciated.
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Humor me....
How much water? Was it enough to get into the intake? If so, you have a cylinder full of water and your trying to compress the water by turning the engine over, which,,,, can't be done as water can not be compressed.
Pull the spark plugs and then see if it turns over. If so, you had water in the cylinder and with the spark plug removed, it had some where to go...
If not, then turn the engine over by the crankshaft pulley. See if it turns over easy or very hard or not at all. Then let us know what you get...
How much water? Was it enough to get into the intake? If so, you have a cylinder full of water and your trying to compress the water by turning the engine over, which,,,, can't be done as water can not be compressed.
Pull the spark plugs and then see if it turns over. If so, you had water in the cylinder and with the spark plug removed, it had some where to go...
If not, then turn the engine over by the crankshaft pulley. See if it turns over easy or very hard or not at all. Then let us know what you get...
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It only takes a cup of water....
If it got into the filter box, it will get sucked right on in.
Even if I am wrong, it is worth pulling the plugs to see...
If it got into the filter box, it will get sucked right on in.
Even if I am wrong, it is worth pulling the plugs to see...
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i have seen it with less water than that when you hit it at high speed. like coastiejoe said its locked. just hope ya didn't bend a rod.
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If I am right, the more you try to turn it over the higher the chance of creating new damage. Since water can not be compressed, if you force it to turn over something has to happen. You will either crack a head, blow a head gasket or bend the connecting rod...
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I talked to a guy I work with and he said I should be able to turn the engine over on the crankshaft pulley with the plugs still in. I put a socket on a 1/2 inch breaker bar and it wont budge. Does this mean I am locked up?
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You need to take the plugs out so if there is any water in a cylinder, it has some place to go. That's providing it hasn't leaked past the rings into the crankcase. Your next step should be to pull the plugs and try and repeat the breaker bar on the crank process.
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Your guy at work is WRONG...
Listen, we are honestly trying to help you. I am not trying to sound mean and negative. But, if you force it over and there is water in the cylinder your looking at one of three things happening.
Bent rod, cracked head, or blown gasket. Now, if you feel any of those are worth you not pulling out the spark plugs then have at it.
Me, I would have pulled the plugs about a week ago. Like I said, even if I am wrong and there is no water in the cylinders, at least you will know and that is worth something.
Beyond offering you good sound information we can not do much more. From here, it is up to you?????
Listen, we are honestly trying to help you. I am not trying to sound mean and negative. But, if you force it over and there is water in the cylinder your looking at one of three things happening.
Bent rod, cracked head, or blown gasket. Now, if you feel any of those are worth you not pulling out the spark plugs then have at it.
Me, I would have pulled the plugs about a week ago. Like I said, even if I am wrong and there is no water in the cylinders, at least you will know and that is worth something.
Beyond offering you good sound information we can not do much more. From here, it is up to you?????
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Here is a way to better understand what we are trying to say.
Fill your mouth with water. Hold the water in your mouth. Take your hands and place one on each side of your face, push your cheeks in.
Let me know what happens....
Fill your mouth with water. Hold the water in your mouth. Take your hands and place one on each side of your face, push your cheeks in.
Let me know what happens....
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I know you guys are trying to help. I work about 10 hours a day and come home and stay with my two small kids until I put them to bed for the night. Then I go outside and crawl up under this thing for a couple of hours, shower, then sleep about 5 hours and I start all over again. I wish I had all the time in the world to work on this but I dont.If that was the case, the plugs would have been out of it and this would have been taken care of weeks ago. I really dont need any crap from anyone. If you want to help fine, if you want to be an *** then keep your stupid comments to yourself.