Stanadyne vs Powerservice
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From: VA
Originally Posted by Beachbumcook
By the way, I use a camping fuel bottle (msr.com) so I can refill it from the 96oz jugs of PowerService I buy (less expensive to refill).
I'll have to check the large jug price and then just keep an empty smaller Powerservice container and refill that.
Got Diesel?
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Originally Posted by WilliesSD250
That's a great idea. I usually just buy 8 of the containers (treats up to 100 gallon size) when Shucks has them on sale. Up here it's usually $4.99 on sale, regulary $7.99. I just go to two different stores, grab the cupon as I walk in and get my 4 bottle limit. Walmart right across the street sells the same size at about $7 and some change at "there everyday low price"
I'll have to check the large jug price and then just keep an empty smaller Powerservice container and refill that.
I'll have to check the large jug price and then just keep an empty smaller Powerservice container and refill that.
http://www.msrcorp.com/stoves/bottles.asp
I use the 32oz since I have a 44 gallon tank in my Excursion. I carry two bottles at all times and since I double dose with Powerservice.... 32oz is used per 44 gallon fill-up (for me).
These bottles are secure, have gaskets and are made for fuel... so there is no problem of bottles leaking or plastic bottles melting as some have reported!!!
Good luck,
Jeff
Got Diesel?
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Good stuff I guess... but they have it made for them. PowerService only makes fuel additives... and diesel at that!!! Stanadyne makes and repairs diesel injection pumps and they to know a few things about diesels.... but Lucas just buys from someone and re-sells it under their own brand and they are all over the board with "additives".... but if it works and contains no alcohol... then keep using.
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I can't tell you how it compares to anything else. I spoke to several truckers, mostly big rigs in the New York area that use it. They all swore by it. Met a few with Ford 6.0 that use it. No complaints. Only 9k miles on my '05 here, all with Lucas but I haven’t compared it to anything. It’s running too good to switch. Can find it at many truck stops, I see it at flying-J, but I usually order it by the gal from summit. It's cheaper to use than most of the other snake oil, thats one reason the big rig guys like it and they all seem to do basically the same thing. Most of the fuel I get around here is only 42 cetane so you need something.
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Originally Posted by Beachbumcook
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Originally Posted by mrxlh
Now if they just had a 16 oz. bottle, I would be in like flynn.
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From: Bossier City, LA
Just to echo whats already been said here, you certainly cannot go wrong with either product. I use powerservice grey due strictly to the availability. If China-Mart ever started carring stanadyne I would use it.
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From: Big Red country
Since this topic has come up I will put this out there for all of you to look at if you wish. Personally, I don't use PS, though it is the most widely available. I obtained the MSDS sheets for seven different manufacturers to see what the chemical make up of the additives are in comparision to each other. PS is the only one that won't tell you directly what is in it, though they do list three on the last page, but they only make up about 6-12% of the compound. The main chemical in most of the brands is Kerosene!! Believe it or not. Stanadyne uses Stoddard solvent which is basically the same as Kerosene, (dry cleaning fluid). However, Stanadyne has about eight different chemicals in it compared to the rest which have only about three or four. Some are as much as 80% kerosene! Just FYI more than anything else really. I had at one time considered making it myself as most of the chemicals can readily be had. I am a firm believer in the saying that "you get what you pay for", if its cheaper there probably is a reason why. Not to say though that it isn't just as effective.
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From: Great State of Texas
Ryan did this for us quite some time ago.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/4...highlight=msds
And more discussion here.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/4...highlight=msds
The bottom line...still...Stanadyne and DK seem to be the additives of choice. Both do very well.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/4...highlight=msds
And more discussion here.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/4...highlight=msds
The bottom line...still...Stanadyne and DK seem to be the additives of choice. Both do very well.
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I'm used stanodyne for the last 4 years. We have had -38 F in the winter and the ol' diesel started up every time. Can get it in Missoula if your having trouble getting it localy. They also ship, go to stanodyne website and look for a dealer near you.
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I've been doing some research on fuel additives and the new fuel that is out, or coming out. First I've found that Stanodyne has 4 different products. While I was in the farm equip business, we sent a lot of pumps to Shattuck Ok for repairs. Still about 25 years later he is still there, and talked to me a lot about the additives. He said power service has alcohol, and should be avoided on power stroke. He said with the new fuel we should run Stanodyne Power Performance. Then I talked to a large dealer in Kansas, and he found a company with 35 trucks. They decided to go to the new fuel, and now they are replacing all of the pumps. Just not enough lubrication. This dealer is buying processed soybean oil, and adding some to every gallon of diesel he sales. He is a big wholesaler, reaching clear down into Texas.
I don't know near all the answers, and what I've learned may be wrong. I'll probably try it and see how it works. I do know one thing. Never add transmission fluid as I was told by a Ford mechanic. It will add lubrication, but will cause pump problems. The rebuilder from Shattuck, told me exactly what the transmission fluid would do and why.
I guess it comes down that we had better run a good fuel additive.
Ken
I don't know near all the answers, and what I've learned may be wrong. I'll probably try it and see how it works. I do know one thing. Never add transmission fluid as I was told by a Ford mechanic. It will add lubrication, but will cause pump problems. The rebuilder from Shattuck, told me exactly what the transmission fluid would do and why.
I guess it comes down that we had better run a good fuel additive.
Ken
Last edited by Kenwoo; Dec 17, 2006 at 12:25 AM. Reason: misspelled word
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From: Schwenksville,Pa
Originally Posted by Kenwoo
I've been doing some research on fuel additives and the new fuel that is out, or coming out. First I've found that Stanodyne has 4 different products. While I was in the farm equip business, we sent a lot of pumps to Shattuck Ok for repairs. Still about 25 years later he is still there, and talked to me a lot about the additives. He said power service has alcohol, and should be avoided on power stroke. He said with the new fuel we should run Stanodyne Power Performance. Then I talked to a large dealer in Kansas, and he found a company with 35 trucks. They decided to go to the new fuel, and now they are replacing all of the pumps. Just not enough lubrication. This dealer is buying processed soybean oil, and adding some to every gallon of diesel he sales. He is a big wholesaler, reaching clear down into Texas.
I don't know near all the answers, and what I've learned may be wrong. I'll probably try it and see how it works. I do know one thing. Never add transmission fluid as I was told by a Ford mechanic. It will add lubrication, but will cause pump problems. The rebuilder from Shattuck, told me exactly what the transmission fluid would do and why.
I guess it comes down that we had better run a good fuel additive.
Ken
I don't know near all the answers, and what I've learned may be wrong. I'll probably try it and see how it works. I do know one thing. Never add transmission fluid as I was told by a Ford mechanic. It will add lubrication, but will cause pump problems. The rebuilder from Shattuck, told me exactly what the transmission fluid would do and why.
I guess it comes down that we had better run a good fuel additive.
Ken