what if ford announced tommorrow (all theory, please bear with me) that they are stopping production of the 6.0, gearing up tooling again with international for the 7.3 powerstroke again, then bolting that into a F150 for the 2007 model year while working with them also to bolt the International DT466 into a 2007 Model year F250,F350,F450, and F550?

assuming they are at the point it's just time to rush it down the assembly line and deliver to the dealer (all research is done, frames are strengthened to take the weight of the DT466 in the F250+ trucks and the F150's is strong for the 7.3, transmissions are picked, etc) would you buy it right off the dealers lot?

do you think this would really give the dodge camp a run for it's money using a DT466 in the bigger series trucks? The cummins was a definite turn around point for dodge (anyone remember the mitsubishi V8 diesel dodge bolted into the rams? ) so would that be a turn around point for ford and steal the market share from dodge?

what about GM? would it bite into their market share also? would people go from a toyota <other brands here> to a ford also if this was the case?

I'm not doing this to start a flame war, this is just a general question on what everyone feels here. would it help ford pull ahead (maybe out of their cash issues at this point with their quarter loss of profits/low stock) or kill ford? what if the F250+ had a caterpillar diesel instead?

think it would pay off wonderfully for ford having not 1, but 2 good diesel engines in 2 different classes of trucks, or was the time to do this back before or around the same time dodge started making rams with cummins?

 

thats nice and all, but their trucks sales are fine, its the rest of the company thats sucks.

 

The old 7.3 was a fine motor, but it wouldn't be competitive with what GM and Dodge offers currently, let alone be legal for the new emissions regulations (which, BTW, are turing into an unfolding nightmare).

 

Even if it was practical to "bolt" a DT466 into a F250,F350 etc., which it isn't even close to being, the added cost for the wet sleeved DT 466 engine would put Ford at a serious price disadvantage in comparison to the competition.

 

Yeah, everyone's got a point, but I think what he means is that if it all worked out and was price effective, would you buy it. This is fantasy remember? Yes I would buy a F150 with any good quality diesel engine right off the lot.

Matthew

 

Ok, I would buy an Abrams tank that will do 85 mph and get 45 mpg as a daily driver, that is if it all worked out and was price effective.

All kidding aside, this is the truck you need if you want a DT466;

Its even got a Ford pickup box.

 

Im a small contractor and most people around here love the fords but but are getting away from powerstroke because of the poor MPG..ford builds great 4 and 6 cylander tractor motors..I dont know ford should not try and adapt somthing with a good track history..people want a diesel with some good MPG like the cummings..

 

my psd gets a constant 18-20 on the highway at 70 mph, how much better mpg does a person expect?

 

at least 300 mpg, too bad you need to just unbolt everything off the chassis and leave 2 seats bolted to the frame then hire a team of people to push it down the highway "faster faster! we need to merge!"

 

Hypothetically, if the 7.3 could be reissued and the EPA told to pound sand, heck yes I'd be there in a heartbeat.
I think most of the relevant counterpoints have already been addressed, except . . . the whole ULSD thing just strikes me as silly. You make these new regs, and what does it do? The fuel changes, and now everyone with a diesel is hacked off because they run like garbage. So what do they do? They mod them, they squeeze more power out and start pumping in additives and the end result is they put out emmissions just like they used to. The only thing that changes is the cost to the guy in the drivers seat. And some nutbag in a ratty chair in a run down office in Washington can go home to his tofu and look himself in the mirror and say "I changed the world today!"
That wont be true in ten years as the current trucks on the road slowly get replaced and the engines improve to adapt to the new fantasy. But by then the EPA will pull some other senseless stunt and we'll all have to have exhaust recirculators on our lawnmowers.
Me, jaded? Naaaaaaah