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I was looking at the Aurora 2000 and 3000 Turbos for my 6.0l diesel and I was wondering if anybody had any experiance with these turbos, recommended others or just any info about what what to look for in general when considering aftermarket turbos for the 6.0 diesel. Thanks
I was looking at the Aurora 2000 and 3000 Turbos for my 6.0l diesel and I was wondering if anybody had any experiance with these turbos, recommended others or just any info about what what to look for in general when considering aftermarket turbos for the 6.0 diesel. Thanks
My friend builds those turbos for ATS, I could ask him anything you want to know.
Well the website really didn't go into specifics, it did mention that there were kits for the turbos, are those kits truly all encompassing or are there still other aftermarket parts you have to do to accomodate for the new turbo? For instance, do you have to get your computer re-configured for the new turbo(I'm thinking you would, if the new turbo allows for more psi compared to the stock setup, unless the computer is able to "learn" on it's own)? If I had to have the computer re-configured(or even if I didn't) would I still be able to run my bully dog setup? Also, along the lines of the bully dog, I noticed that there was an intake part to the kit, would my bully dog intake be sufficient or would I have to use the one that came with the kit? Any other structural enhancements do I have to make to handle that extra boost outside what's giving in the kits(or what would be recommended improvements to be safe)? Also what would be an average improvement that most people would see with upgrading to this setup(I know it varies from person to person, just want an average ball park figure to have something to gauge with)? Thanks for the help.
All excellent questions, that I'm a bit curious to know the answers to myself. My only real pet peeve about the 6.0L is that darn lag. I assume that if this new turbo is going to build more boost though, than a new set of gaskets and studs are probably in order. It also probably wouldn't hurt to go with ATS' fire rings and head reworking either. Man that just got expensive!
Well the website really didn't go into specifics, it did mention that there were kits for the turbos, are those kits truly all encompassing or are there still other aftermarket parts you have to do to accomodate for the new turbo? For instance, do you have to get your computer re-configured for the new turbo(I'm thinking you would, if the new turbo allows for more psi compared to the stock setup, unless the computer is able to "learn" on it's own)? If I had to have the computer re-configured(or even if I didn't) would I still be able to run my bully dog setup? Also, along the lines of the bully dog, I noticed that there was an intake part to the kit, would my bully dog intake be sufficient or would I have to use the one that came with the kit? Any other structural enhancements do I have to make to handle that extra boost outside what's giving in the kits(or what would be recommended improvements to be safe)? Also what would be an average improvement that most people would see with upgrading to this setup(I know it varies from person to person, just want an average ball park figure to have something to gauge with)? Thanks for the help.
To increase the size of the turbo alone won't give you the performance that you want, but you will get the reliability. You will need to have a programmer and bigger injectors for the extra boost and fuel delivery needed to get full benefit from the turbo. You can run up to 38 psi of boost with the stock head gaskets and studs. He does not know about the bully dog setup working with the kit, but it comes with everything else you need to install and run the new turbo. As far as numbers go, it depends on a lot of variables like the year of the truck, programmer model, altitude (you probably know that), intake, exhaust. The only way to know for sure is to put it on the truck and run the dyno. You really can't go wrong buy getting an aftermarket turbo, because the stock turbos are not very reliable, if look around on this site you will hear a lot about the "inlet vanes sticking", and causing driveability issues.
By programmer(tuner) do you mean like the bully dog or something else? If the stock turbo redlines at 35-40 psi where will this new one redline? I like the fact that its more reliable the stock, but if I'm going to be spending several k for it, I'm going to want a little more power(or in this case psi) to go along with it as well. Does your friend recommand certain type of injectors? Now on the aftermarket injectors that I could have gotten for my 02 dodge dually, they were labeled as stage 1 all the way to stage 8, is that the same for the ford as well and if it is, which ones are recommended?
By programmer(tuner) do you mean like the bully dog or something else? If the stock turbo redlines at 35-40 psi where will this new one redline? I like the fact that its more reliable the stock, but if I'm going to be spending several k for it, I'm going to want a little more power(or in this case psi) to go along with it as well. Does your friend recommand certain type of injectors? Now on the aftermarket injectors that I could have gotten for my 02 dodge dually, they were labeled as stage 1 all the way to stage 8, is that the same for the ford as well and if it is, which ones are recommended?
Don't know much about the bully dog programmer, but it should be fine, he would recommend the E-power by ATS though because you can customize it for the setup your running. I don't think that you will ever be able to redline your boost with the stock turbo, I can't get ahold of him yet, but we were talking about installing one on my '06. I didn't ask him specifically, but like I mentioned earlier you can't run any more than 38 pounds of boost without some other mods, so that leads me to beleive that it won't go higher than that. What kind of boost are you running now? I can only get about 28 pounds up here in Colorado, I'm just curious to see what you get at sea level. I'm just assuming, that you live in Texas by your name (tex25025). I will write you again when I get ahold of him about what size injectors to install, and he's a company guy so he will probably recommend the ATS injectors, but I will ask.
I was able to one time get 33 psi. Your half right, I'm a native of Texas(6th generation), but I live up in the yankee state of Tennessee now. I'm not against having things consistant and running same brands, in a way it makes life easier. If they can swing a great deal with all that stuff then who knows. About the redline of the turbo, the reason I asked that was more if it does allow for more psi then stock, then I'm sure that the stock gauge wouldn't work and thus I would have to rely on my monitor boost gauge and because it's digital, it doesn't have a redline to it and it doesn't have a boost backdown, or atleast I haven't found it anyway, so I wanted to make sure I knew what the peak capacity of the new turbo was, not that I really want to try to redline it.
I was able to one time get 33 psi. Your half right, I'm a native of Texas(6th generation), but I live up in the yankee state of Tennessee now. I'm not against having things consistant and running same brands, in a way it makes life easier. If they can swing a great deal with all that stuff then who knows. About the redline of the turbo, the reason I asked that was more if it does allow for more psi then stock, then I'm sure that the stock gauge wouldn't work and thus I would have to rely on my monitor boost gauge and because it's digital, it doesn't have a redline to it and it doesn't have a boost backdown, or atleast I haven't found it anyway, so I wanted to make sure I knew what the peak capacity of the new turbo was, not that I really want to try to redline it.
I was able to talk with my buddy again last night, and he said that the 2000 is capable of about 50 psi of boost. I think that you should talk to someone at ATS about the turbo you want to run and ask them, 1 on 1 about any other mods you may have to do. You have to do a lot to get the 50psi out of it though, so I think it would be in your best interest to call Evan Price at ATS. He is the one I've been talking to about this, because he runs the turbo section of ATS.
I was able to talk with my buddy again last night, and he said that the 2000 is capable of about 50 psi of boost. I think that you should talk to someone at ATS about the turbo you want to run and ask them, 1 on 1 about any other mods you may have to do. You have to do a lot to get the 50psi out of it though, so I think it would be in your best interest to call Evan Price at ATS. He is the one I've been talking to about this, because he runs the turbo section of ATS.
i'll do that, I really do appreciate you asking for me with regard to my initial questions. I appreciate the help, I'm new with regard to the aftermarket performance stuff, and I do appreciate the extra help. Thanks.
i'll do that, I really do appreciate you asking for me with regard to my initial questions. I appreciate the help, I'm new with regard to the aftermarket performance stuff, and I do appreciate the extra help. Thanks.
No problem, I'm still learning about the same stuff.