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Are you having problems finding parts or what? You'll need a P/S box, I assume for a 4X4 going by your username and of course the pump and mounting bracket, and hoses. Some junkyard scrounging should turn up what you need, and you should be able to use the above mentioned items from a '73-79 which should widen the search. Of course you'll need the pump brackets to fit your particular engine, and you may have to do some swapping of pulleys and belts depending on how your engine is configured.
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thanks for the info, as a newbee like myself this being my first project. steering issues like this can be quite the venture. thanks again for pointing me in a direction, i also talked to a mechanic in my area and he seems to think the steering from a 78 or 79 ford 3/4 ton 4*4 may work with possible minor fabrication. hopefully this is the case. as the search goes on i'm sure i'll have more questions.
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i have a 360 engine. i was'nt if that's what you ment by "engine configuration"
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i have a 360 engine. i was'nt if that's what you ment by "engine configuration"
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Almost...a 360 is an FE engine as is the 352 and the 390, among others. So you'd want to find a pump mounting bracket off of an FE engine, whereas one from say a 302 or engines from other families wouldn't work.
I think a steering box from the '78 or '79 you mention would work very well. Many years back I swapped steering boxes between the '72 I have now and a '78, and it was a direct swap with no modifications. I'm not as familiar with 4X4 stuff but I believe the box mounts further forward on the frame than it does on a 4X2 with the Pitman arm at a different angle, but I wouldn't swear to it. My point being that I don't believe there were any (major) differences in the frames between the '67-'72 and the '73-'79s so I think it would all fit up just fine.
I think a steering box from the '78 or '79 you mention would work very well. Many years back I swapped steering boxes between the '72 I have now and a '78, and it was a direct swap with no modifications. I'm not as familiar with 4X4 stuff but I believe the box mounts further forward on the frame than it does on a 4X2 with the Pitman arm at a different angle, but I wouldn't swear to it. My point being that I don't believe there were any (major) differences in the frames between the '67-'72 and the '73-'79s so I think it would all fit up just fine.
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this is deffinatly good news. you can bet i'll be at the junk yards when i get the time. i'll post my findings along the way for any others with similar questions and any other questions that may arise. thanks again for your help
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Hi, I put a 79 4x4 box on my 68 F250 4x4 and it isn't a direct bolt in. You have to box the frame and drill new holes. I went a step or two further and put a later Dana 44 flat top knuckle with cross over steering. Works great. There are picture of the swap you want to do on the gallery. Look under 1970/F250/4x4 and then "70 Highboy," look through the pictures and it will give you an idea of what is involved.
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i found the pictures you were telling me about and it did give me a good idea of what i'm up against. a little more work than i realized, but then again when is anything as easy as you anticipate.
i was wondering, is there any advantage to cross-over steering as opposed to a standard set up?
thanks for the heads up and letting me know about the pictures. i need as much help as i can get
i was wondering, is there any advantage to cross-over steering as opposed to a standard set up?
thanks for the heads up and letting me know about the pictures. i need as much help as i can get
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I was told by a good friend of mine who owns a front end shop that the longer a drag link is the better a car/truck will handle. He also said that in some cases you could (one wheel up and the other down can't remember which up or down) not steer out of it with the original steering. I wasn't to concerned about this, but I did want disc brakes, power steering and better handling, so I changed the box and front end. To give you an idea of what I did; boxed the frame and redrilled the holes, trimmed the radiator support, but that was about it as far as mounting. From what I understand, you could reuse your pitman arm and drag link. I had the front end off, so it only took me about half a day for actual fabrication and mounting.
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well, it sounds like i have my work cut out for me. i don't think i'll have too much trouble but i don't have a welder or the welding skills but i have a friend that can help me out with that part.
thanks for the help
thanks for the help