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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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Alwaysfixing the one thing to check on is the weight limit before you have to have brakes for the towed vehicle, a lot of motor homes have to have a braking device in the flat towed vehicles because of the weight. And no you can not back a double tow up very far if at all. More states allow doubles with a 5th wheel than with a bumper style trailer. One of the biggest challenges is getting fuel, when I'm pulling my boat behind my 5ver I always make sure my 50 gal aux tank is full before I hookup and when I fuel I look for a place that I can fit and then at price.

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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Well my brother is trying to keep the peace with his wife before we leave for Moab so I won't have the trial run with his jeep until tomorrow night. rvpuller I am real nervous about stopping for fuel. Unlike you I only have a 29 gallon gas tank and I have a V10. I am sure I will stop twice for fuel each way.

I will post tomorrow night after my test run..

Right now I am sitting here trying to decide if I should take the top and doors off my 78 Bronco. October in Moab you just never know.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 05:34 PM
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I'm going after it - purely out of SPITE!

I'll ROB them if I have to...

OH YEAH! There it is...

(mess with me, see how it comes out...)

If you don't live on the edge, you are just waiting around to die.

Check out the 'Roo bars on it's front...
CRIKEY! That's one long rig. How long do you think it is...100'....150'??
 
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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Right now I am sitting here trying to decide if I should take the top and doors off my 78 Bronco. October in Moab you just never know.
I was in Moab the last week in September last year. Thunderstorms galore. When it rained...it DUMPED! Lots of hail too. It dented up the fins on my 5th wheel air conditioner. I had never seen red waterfalls until then either. With all the red rock, the water flows red when it rains. Beautiful place though. You know if you take off the top and doors, it will rain. If you leave them on, the weather will be nice. (Murphy)
 
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by slowolf
CRIKEY! That's one long rig. How long do you think it is...100'....150'??
Looks like 200' plus. They tend to use full-length trailers for those trains...
 
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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Well, the test did not go so well.. The jeep on the end really started whipping. It would not track well above 45 mph. It might be a weight distribution thing, but I don't have the time to work through everything. Plan B is for us both to use a pickup and single trailer to get our rigs down there and spend 2x the gas money.

Slowwolf I love Moab in the rain! There are waterfalls everywhere because a lot of the mountains are solid rock so the rain does not soak in. Two years ago I was down in Moab in March with my top and doors off my 78 Bronco. We were headed back in to town on the highway when it starts snowing hard. The wind was blowing the snow right in my side. I finally had to stop and park the vehicle facing the snow until it stopped. It then started to rain. I went back to my cabin and put my doors on and we did the CLiffhanger trail in the rain. It was very interesting watching all the water. Since that time I have always been leery of taking the top and doors off early and late in the year. Right now they have a flood advisory going on so I think I will leave the top and doors on.

I do understand the Murphy thing. All we had to do around here to get diesel to stop selling at a $.50 premium to gas was to get me to buy a V10 instead of a Powerstroke! The same week I buy the V10 diesel starts its fast decent. Much faster than gas.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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SURVEY SEZ:

"FORWARD, good. BACKUP - BAD!!!"

If I have a choice, I plan to go straight in and out. If I don't - something is fixin' to git unhitched first....

And on another note, since I got my base decal and can shop for GOOD brew now:

FOSTERS - AUSTRALIAN for 'THERAPY'...
 

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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 12:17 AM
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I don't think you are going to back up a triple tow very far, not far enough to be effective.


Sorry, I meant double tow, (triple unit)
 

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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 09:05 PM
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I wonder if the JEEP has a "toe-in" issue that might be contributing to the sway.

When was it last aligned? My "son of an engineer mechanic" little mind just lit up a warning light...
 

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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 09:18 PM
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lots of factors there, the trailer sways a bit, the jeep follows, but in order to turn back, has to exert force to the steering, then over does it on the other side... that was the pushing I was referring to earlier, in order to turn the towed vehicle, it has to have the steering tires forced to turn, and generally are resistant to doing so, and the resulting push can cause troubles. I had a pickup on a tow bar, and it pushed the back of another pickup nearly into a jack knife since the towed pickup didn't want to turn... had a car try to turn the opposite direction than I was as well... alignment is absolutely key.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Makes me wonder if there is any way to add a sway control bar to a vehicle hitch (such as an 'A' frame or something)...
 
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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there are some that have kind of like shocks on each side, they then have some give on turns, and maybe a dampening effect. Saw some when my dad was delivering rv's, one of the other drivers had one.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Alwaysfixin
Well, the test did not go so well.. The jeep on the end really started whipping. It would not track well above 45 mph. It might be a weight distribution thing, but I don't have the time to work through everything. Plan B is for us both to use a pickup and single trailer to get our rigs down there and spend 2x the gas money.

Slowwolf I love Moab in the rain! There are waterfalls everywhere because a lot of the mountains are solid rock so the rain does not soak in. Two years ago I was down in Moab in March with my top and doors off my 78 Bronco. We were headed back in to town on the highway when it starts snowing hard. The wind was blowing the snow right in my side. I finally had to stop and park the vehicle facing the snow until it stopped. It then started to rain. I went back to my cabin and put my doors on and we did the CLiffhanger trail in the rain. It was very interesting watching all the water. Since that time I have always been leery of taking the top and doors off early and late in the year. Right now they have a flood advisory going on so I think I will leave the top and doors on.

I do understand the Murphy thing. All we had to do around here to get diesel to stop selling at a $.50 premium to gas was to get me to buy a V10 instead of a Powerstroke! The same week I buy the V10 diesel starts its fast decent. Much faster than gas.
I would spend 2X the fuel...

This setup sound like an invitation to disaster. Since the jeep won't have brakes, if you have to make a quick stop, not just a panic stop, but a quick stop, the trailer may kick sideways and jack knife the whole rig.

Personally, I wouldn't do the double with that setup.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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The only way i can see a triple is either with matched weights (as in a road train) or with something very light at the end of it.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Greywolf
The only way i can see a triple is either with matched weights (as in a road train) or with something very light at the end of it.
My vote is for light on the end, when I pull I have a 15K 5ver pulling a 900lb boat. There is no way the end trailer will over power the lead trailer.

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