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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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That's just it by paying the extra amount per month you don't invest the difference of $250. You're assuming you can make the investment while making the higher payments. I am just making an apples to apples comparison based on what BIg d posted, not funny marh just pretty straight forward! Based on your aveerage American in debt statement mine scenario is closer to reality!
 
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by KevinM
That's just it by paying the extra amount per month you don't invest the difference of $250. You're assuming you can make the investment while making the higher payments.
Ok...
If I only invest the DIFFERENCE between the higher payment and the $250/month, I invest $40.35/month. At the end of the term I have $2,815.22.

My investments have now netted me $6,422.34 and yours have netted you $2,422.51. Unlike yourself, I didn't have to put down any money up front and we had exactly the same monthly payment. Excuse me, I have to go. I have $4,000 to spend...
 
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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You don't get it! I am only taking the difference your math assumes you can still invest! Based on your soap box speech that Americans live beyond their means your assumption is non consitant with your proclaimation. One who has the large down payment probably does not live beyond their means due to cash availability. One thing I know for sure I would not leave my retirement investments with you! Your assumptions exceed reality!

Nuff said!
 
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by KevinM
You don't get it! I am only taking the difference your math assumes you can still invest! Based on your soap box speech that Americans live beyond their means your assumption is non consitant with your proclaimation. One who has the large down payment probably does not live beyond their means due to cash availability. One thing I know for sure I would not leave my retirement investments with you! Your assumptions exceed reality!

Nuff said!

No, You still don't get it. I took your fuzzy math and actually put it to pen and paper. Assuming ONE buyer in the position to make either decision, I showed you that it didn't make sense to put the cash down. That's all.

One who has the large down payment probably does not live beyond their means due to cash availability.
Another opinion to back up your fuzzy math...
Remember, we're talking about a financial decision here, not two different people in two different situations. Are you going to continue adding variables or can we leave well enough alone?

Based on your soap box speech that Americans live beyond their means your assumption is non consitant with your proclaimation.
Irrelevant.

One thing I know for sure I would not leave my retirement investments with you!
Another opinion to attempt to strengthen your position...

Your assumptions exceed reality!
I've proven that no matter what, your numbers do not work. Your assumptions are broad and unintelligible - at least I laid mine out for people to see.

'Nuff said.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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Interesting debate...

But how did we get from Gap Insurance to investment strategies?
 
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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Too much testosterone, lol.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 08:39 AM
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I retired debt free at 55 with all the toys I wanted (new truck, camper, nice house, motorcycle, etc) with a simple plan I followed all my life and it lets one avoid problems such as gap insurance, etc. It is very simple:

You can charge necessities but you always pay for luxuries.

A house is a necessity so you can charge that.

A car/truck is a necessity so you can charge that. However a good car/truck is a luxury and you don't charge luxuries.

I was teased for many years by my fellow workers for being tight and cheap but I'm retired and they are still working with a mountain of debt. Work is highly overrated and it's nice to not punch a clock and still be able to buy the toys you want.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 09:05 AM
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Your'e the one who made the speech, tailored and sku's your assumptions to meet your results, not good financial strategy! Nothing like back engineering! My numbers do work! It's simple math, and BTW if my fiancial approach on things were off as you have eluded to, I think I would be in a world of hurt. My investments are doing very nicely thank you, and I should be retired in about 2 years debt free, not even close to 60, and a very nice nest egg! So go on with your elusions of grander and lets see how you do in the end!

osbornK - well said!

I'm done!
 

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