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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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"Problems With Brake Controllers"

As you can well imagine, since I work for a living at an RV dealership - I am extremely interested in hearing about BAD brake controllers, and ones that just plain work without exception.

So far - everything I have heard about "PRODIGY" BC's is good.

Can you post about bad experiences with other controllers so that I can be aware of them?

Thank you very much in advance for your inputs.
I don't want any of us to be out there with the "wrong stuff"....

~Wolf
 

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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 10:13 PM
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I got a Draw-Tite controller that worked good pulling (stopping) a 1500 pound trailer with my Ranger. Easy install, easy setup.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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The only problem I have had with my Brakesmart is I had to get out the book to adjust the gain because its been so long sense I had to do it.

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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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Excuse my ignorance. But what's a "brake controller"? I've been using a tandem axle trailer for personal family use 2-3 times per year. It has "surge brakes". I generally don't get on the Interstate with it. Thanks.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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Excuse my ignorance. But what's a "brake controller"? I've been using a tandem axle trailer for personal family use 2-3 times per year. It has "surge brakes". I generally don't get on the Interstate with it. Thanks.
Could you please identify the machine you are towing it with, and what kind of trailer and how big (heavy) it is?

Does it have a seven conductor cable or a four-way?

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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tigerman
Excuse my ignorance. But what's a "brake controller"? I've been using a tandem axle trailer for personal family use 2-3 times per year. It has "surge brakes". I generally don't get on the Interstate with it. Thanks.
Surge Brakes use a hydraulic master cylinder mounted on the tongue of the trailer that activates the brakes when the TV brakes are applied, brakes that need a controller are electric and need the controller to adjust the amount of power to them by the amount of braking from the TV. Electric brakes are more reliable that surge because they can be applied with or without the TV brakes and the braking is better controlled by the controllers adjustment.

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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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I gotcha! That's the system used on U-HAUL car haulers - with the sliding hitch that applies a self contained mechanical or hydraulic brake set. When the trailer shoves forward towards the ball - it brakes mechanically. (Thus the term "SURGE")
 
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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Thanks for the reply RV and Greywolf. I occasionally pull a 2,200 "Redi-Haul" 12 ft tandem wheel trailer made in Fairmont, MN. Bought it new in 1999 and pull it with my 1999 Superduty 5.4, 4.10 gears 2WD. I've had to adjust some of the shoes twice because they drag and will lock up. Boy, does that dog up a tire! Oh yeah, it has a seven point connector.
 

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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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About the only thing you can do to extend the life of your brake shoes on that is just to try very hard to avoid sudden braking. IE: Drive SMOOTHLY....

Around town I bet it eats a lot of brake material. This is the advantage of electric with a Controller - IN TOWN at slower speeds and with a lot more stops you can set it differently, so the brakes don't get "ATE UP" as hard.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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Thanks again. Actually, if'n I had lots of money and used it a lot, I'd get that electric brake controller, add pads and rotors and get rid of those drum brakes.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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Roger that.

How much PRICEY in a modification do you really want to do?

It runs right on back to the original design, and how much it costs to mess with it.

In your case - it would involve carving off some serious trailer frame parts.
 

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Thanks again, Greywolf, for that insight to the complications of such a conversion. I'll just stick with what I got....and drive smoothly.
 
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I have had very good luck towing our 9000lbs travel trailer using a drawtite and also a prodigy brake controller. Never a single issue with either.

Both got retired for the tow commandsystem in my new F350. I still use the prodigy if I need to move the trailer with our suburban but it mainly collects dust
 
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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Thanks again, Greywolf, for that insight to the complications of such a conversion. I'll just stick with what I got....and drive smoothly.
Tell ya what, bud...

There is some stuff called "PENEGREASE" that would be good to spray all up in the working parts of your surge hitch, I personally got hooked on WHITE LITHIUM AEROSOL GREASE a few years ago. I know that the Lithium spray will stay where it is put once you spray it on there, and it won't break down.

EITHER ONE will do two things for you:

1) They lubricate everything so they don't rust together and lock up.
2) They prevent rust in the first place.

*The thing that makes a lithium grease in a spray can so outstanding is that it percolates into small places before the aerosol evaporates, which means bluntly that it gets into everything! It will do a wonderful job on a hinge or a stuck lock cylinder...

I'd keep some around if it was on me to do...
 

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