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I have recently moved to Arizona and they require a vehicle inspection. I just found out that on my '64 F250, the title says P260 when the VIN plate on the door says F260. DMV wants to me to find a second VIN number on the truck but the shop manual doesn't give any clues. Any ideas?
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You can go to the first vin location, the tag on the door, and the door could have been changed. I don't understand the P thing myself. On the passenger side frame rail about where the front axle passes under is where you will find the vin number. There shouldn't be a hassle on a 37 year old truck.
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On my '66, there is a VIN stamped into the top surface of the frame just behind the cab on the right side. It is not visible with the box in place.
Doesn't "P" indicate parcel delivery? Perhaps it's a simple clerical error.
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Doesn't "P" indicate parcel delivery? Perhaps it's a simple clerical error.
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John is right on second vin being on the frame rail on the passenger side. You may have to use a wire brush to find it. My 62 F250 was a state truck. No plate on the door only a state id number. The local DMV here in Stockton refused to register the truck even though I had the original state pink slip etc. They wanted me to take it to the CHP to get an id plate for the door. Fortunately, I found an office in another town that would accept the frame rail vin. So, as to whether it will be easy, Good luck! Hopefully the DMV in your state is not as consumer be damned as some offices here in CA.
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on my 63 the second " chassis" vin is on the top rail 10 inches behind the front cab mount on the passenger side the P sounds like an error. If it is a truck you got here and it has an Arizona title that year does not need an inspection. If it was an out of state title, an Arizona level 2 or 3 station can straighten that out for you.They were more than helpful on a similar problem I had.
on my 63 the second " chassis" vin is on the top rail 10 inches behind the front cab mount on the passenger side the P sounds like an error. If it is a truck you got here and it has an Arizona title that year does not need an inspection. If it was an out of state title, an Arizona level 2 or 3 station can straighten that out for you.They were more than helpful on a similar problem I had.
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ADOT MVD couldn't care less about any door or removable VIN tag. My VIN is just behind the centerline of the front axle. Just scrape by hand to remove the junk or paint sitting on those engraved numbers; be careful, some are sort of lightly done. Paint remover can be a help if the paint is thick. If needed, rub in a little white paint to reveal those numbers. Any rust will be your worse enemy. The right MVD officer can be a help but others might figure that you are trying to slip a vehicle past them.
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Hi Lee, I would like to agree and caution that for some reason the stamped vins were not all put in the same place (like 30" from the end of the frame rail). I have found that they can vary but will always be on the top of the passenger side rail, and close to where the front axle crosses under. Most often the second stamp is under the cab rather than behind it. Another of Ford's better ideas???
Other than untrained, I can't figure why a DOT officer would give you much grief over a 35 year old truck, late models maybe but old trucks.
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Other than untrained, I can't figure why a DOT officer would give you much grief over a 35 year old truck, late models maybe but old trucks.
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I would not worry about seeking out a level 2 or 3 station here in arizona. they deal only with problem paper work and problem numbers . These special units have good inspectors with the right knowledge.I took them a truck I bought that failed the level 1 general inspection because someone had played with the numbers and it had two VIN numbers.They found all the info on the problem with thier computers and were even able to tell me the two salvage yards 3000 miles away that supplied the parts that were used on the truck. they gave me a new title and passed me right there.
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John, I had the Head Honcho come out and look and she agreed that the CHP would have to affix a door tag before here office would register it. No, I wasn't raising Hell. I think it just looked to old and dirty. Still looks old.
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Man talk about crazy people. Tell me what CHP stands for.
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Thanks for all the good info. This is a montana truck that I am trying to register in Arizona. So far they have been real nice (which is amazing) but I need to track down the inspection officer which is only there a few days of the week. The tag on the door actually says that it is should not be used for registration purposes. I have been out-of-town for the past couple of days but i will take a look on the passenger rail and see if I can find it.
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Man, I thought things out west were supposed to be simple.
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John,
As it was explained to me by MVD, Arizona's problem remains with Mexico. Any and all trucks are very popular here so there is the thriving business of stealing AZ trucks, running them over the border, giving them a new ID and returning them back to AZ for a new title. This is also true for cars. So the MVD is very strict issuing new titles no matter where the old/ existing title work is from.
As far as VIN locations, my primary number has been closer to the front axle than towards the cab. But those 'hidden' VINs are elusive; I have yet to find one. But then I didn't absolutely need to find it either.
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As it was explained to me by MVD, Arizona's problem remains with Mexico. Any and all trucks are very popular here so there is the thriving business of stealing AZ trucks, running them over the border, giving them a new ID and returning them back to AZ for a new title. This is also true for cars. So the MVD is very strict issuing new titles no matter where the old/ existing title work is from.
As far as VIN locations, my primary number has been closer to the front axle than towards the cab. But those 'hidden' VINs are elusive; I have yet to find one. But then I didn't absolutely need to find it either.
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now Im confused . If a stolen truck came back into Arizona from Mexico would'nt it have papers from mexico ? If the papers are from another state [ Montana for example] what the point of all that?