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From: White Mnt's,New Hampshire
lol nut. i just found some bio my way. cant wait to try it. not sure about the b rating on it though. will find out tomarrow. how low is to low to make not worth wild to travel for? how much is the bio down that way? #2 just droped to 2.87 this morning up here. im sure your probly at least 10 cent cheaper.
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I'm actually trying to decide what to do with mine... currently it's running all the way back to just before the rear bumper, but along the way there are about three low spots that are sort of tough to avoid when running the hose that far, and they're gathering small amounts of oil.
I'm going to either force one extra low spot early in the hose, and install a T there with a plug so I can drain it once in a while, or I'm going to just cut it at the bottom where it first comes down to the frame, like the T444E version, and just let it go right there. Only drawback I can see to the first one is that while it's much easier and no-maintenance, the fumes would then be under the cab rather than back at the rear bumper.... not sure if they'd bug me in the cab or not.
I'm going to either force one extra low spot early in the hose, and install a T there with a plug so I can drain it once in a while, or I'm going to just cut it at the bottom where it first comes down to the frame, like the T444E version, and just let it go right there. Only drawback I can see to the first one is that while it's much easier and no-maintenance, the fumes would then be under the cab rather than back at the rear bumper.... not sure if they'd bug me in the cab or not.
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From: Carhenge
Crankcase ventilation systems are emissions control devices. It is illegal under the clean air act to tamper with any emission control devices.
US CODE TITLE 42 > CHAPTER 85 > SUBCHAPTER II > Part A > § 7522
PROHIBITED ACTS
(3)(A) for any person to remove or render inoperative any device or element of design installed on or in a motor vehicle or motor vehicle engine in compliance with regulations under this subchapter prior to its sale and delivery to the ultimate purchaser, or for any person knowingly to remove or render inoperative any such device or element of design after such sale and delivery to the ultimate purchaser;
I suspect the mechanic was right, that venting the CCV to air is in violation of the clean air act.
US CODE TITLE 42 > CHAPTER 85 > SUBCHAPTER II > Part A > § 7522
PROHIBITED ACTS
(3)(A) for any person to remove or render inoperative any device or element of design installed on or in a motor vehicle or motor vehicle engine in compliance with regulations under this subchapter prior to its sale and delivery to the ultimate purchaser, or for any person knowingly to remove or render inoperative any such device or element of design after such sale and delivery to the ultimate purchaser;
I suspect the mechanic was right, that venting the CCV to air is in violation of the clean air act.
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From: New Hampshire
Originally Posted by ron's power stoke
lol nut. i just found some bio my way. cant wait to try it. not sure about the b rating on it though. will find out tomarrow. how low is to low to make not worth wild to travel for? how much is the bio down that way? #2 just droped to 2.87 this morning up here. im sure your probly at least 10 cent cheaper.
@ 2.64/gal with 150gal min purchase. He dropped off 3 drums in my driveway. Cool ehh? I believe he'll deliver throughout NH. His site LINK
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From: New Hampshire
Originally Posted by clux
Crankcase ventilation systems are emissions control devices. It is illegal under the clean air act to tamper with any emission control devices.
US CODE TITLE 42 > CHAPTER 85 > SUBCHAPTER II > Part A > § 7522
PROHIBITED ACTS
(3)(A) for any person to remove or render inoperative any device or element of design installed on or in a motor vehicle or motor vehicle engine in compliance with regulations under this subchapter prior to its sale and delivery to the ultimate purchaser, or for any person knowingly to remove or render inoperative any such device or element of design after such sale and delivery to the ultimate purchaser;
I suspect the mechanic was right, that venting the CCV to air is in violation of the clean air act.
US CODE TITLE 42 > CHAPTER 85 > SUBCHAPTER II > Part A > § 7522
PROHIBITED ACTS
(3)(A) for any person to remove or render inoperative any device or element of design installed on or in a motor vehicle or motor vehicle engine in compliance with regulations under this subchapter prior to its sale and delivery to the ultimate purchaser, or for any person knowingly to remove or render inoperative any such device or element of design after such sale and delivery to the ultimate purchaser;
I suspect the mechanic was right, that venting the CCV to air is in violation of the clean air act.
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From: Maine
[QUOTE=ryaneverk2]Actually it wouldn't matter if he noticed you have no cat, because your truck didn't come with one from the factory. It would only be an issue if it came with a cat from the factory and then you disabled it.
Ryan, I acually did have a factory cat and trashed it when I put my 4 inch on,some of the earlys had em.
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Originally Posted by ron's power stoke
wow theres a few of us from the north county. ive herd that too. but i think it was in the international trucks. im just not sure how it is less of a pollutant going into an intake rather then a canester or an exhaust. eather way it spreads oil under the hood and vapers go out the exhaust any ways.
Ron I think the garage`s concern centered around factory installed equipment remaining intact. I can see there point, they don`t want it to come back on them.
Ryan, I acually did have a factory cat and trashed it when I put my 4 inch on,some of the earlys had em.
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Originally Posted by ron's power stoke
wow theres a few of us from the north county. ive herd that too. but i think it was in the international trucks. im just not sure how it is less of a pollutant going into an intake rather then a canester or an exhaust. eather way it spreads oil under the hood and vapers go out the exhaust any ways.
Ron I think the garage`s concern centered around factory installed equipment remaining intact. I can see there point, they don`t want it to come back on them.
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From: Carhenge
Originally Posted by PSNut
How about the T444E?
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Originally Posted by Tenn01PSD350
Ryan, I don't think you're going to like your "Draft Tube" venting near the cab. You've smelled that stuff.
Originally Posted by cnd999
Originally Posted by ryaneverk2
Actually it wouldn't matter if he noticed you have no cat, because your truck didn't come with one from the factory. It would only be an issue if it came with a cat from the factory and then you disabled it.
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From: Columbia, MO
Originally Posted by amiller93
You can always plug into the exhaust and hide the hose at the top of the framerail, unless they are specificall looking for it i doubt they would notice it. If you are straight piped just tap into the exhaust DP.
I actually just hooked mine into my exhaust today, putting it right before the T-pipe for my stacks. I just got tired of smoke coming out from under my bed. Used a kit from Jegs, ran some copper pipe, and attached my CCV hose to it. I'll get a pic uploaded here in a bit of what I did.
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From: 21791
here is my crankcase vent.
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/5522...91838520keCoHr
look for the other pics in the album for the rest of the CCV pics scattered throughout.
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/5522...91838520keCoHr
look for the other pics in the album for the rest of the CCV pics scattered throughout.
