Champion plugs?
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Champion plugs?
Anybody here like to use Champion Spark plugs? Specifically the Champion Truck plug. I'm thinking about trying them. I got Autolite 25's in now but still having some WOT/high rpm missing going on. Can't really diagnose it because I'm not able to get under the hood going down the road 
2nd new dizzy helped out tramendously but still has some slight missing when you step on it. Motor's new, everything's new.
I've always used and had best luck with good old Motorcraft plugs in a Ford. Probably most of you as well.
When I think of Champion, I think of lawnmower plugs. Just seeing if anyone likes them in thier Ford.
Is .044 a good gap with the Duraspark II?
What's a good brand aftermarket pick-up coil? I think the ones in these Cardone reman distributors are junk.
I just gotta get this mis out of this brand new motor, it's ticking me off pretty bad.
2nd new dizzy helped out tramendously but still has some slight missing when you step on it. Motor's new, everything's new.I've always used and had best luck with good old Motorcraft plugs in a Ford. Probably most of you as well.
When I think of Champion, I think of lawnmower plugs. Just seeing if anyone likes them in thier Ford.
Is .044 a good gap with the Duraspark II?
What's a good brand aftermarket pick-up coil? I think the ones in these Cardone reman distributors are junk.
I just gotta get this mis out of this brand new motor, it's ticking me off pretty bad.
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I have used Champion Plugs in Ford engines and had no problems, Ford used Champion plugs from the Model T until the early 60's when they purchased Autolite.
Autolite up to that had been oe on Chrysler vehicles. The last fleet I worked for
used Champs without probelm until we had a couple of brand new plugs missfire moments after installation. The problem was that the insulator cracked up near the
shell and dropped shielding the electrod and the gap. We figured it was just a bad
couple of boxes but it repeated a few too many times. That was the end of Champs.
Would I use them now, I always liked them, I presently use Autolite but I'm getting
close to a plug change on one of my engines and I'm thinking about going back to them. If the engine doesn't miss and the mileage is good and they last why not.
Autolite up to that had been oe on Chrysler vehicles. The last fleet I worked for
used Champs without probelm until we had a couple of brand new plugs missfire moments after installation. The problem was that the insulator cracked up near the
shell and dropped shielding the electrod and the gap. We figured it was just a bad
couple of boxes but it repeated a few too many times. That was the end of Champs.
Would I use them now, I always liked them, I presently use Autolite but I'm getting
close to a plug change on one of my engines and I'm thinking about going back to them. If the engine doesn't miss and the mileage is good and they last why not.
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I think I'm going to go p/u a set of these and try them.
http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...pe=960&ptset=A
http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...pe=960&ptset=A
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I wouldn't use a Champion plug if it was given to me, they're junk. I've seen them dead right out of the box. Autolite isn't much better, I had a set one time and 4 of them melted down shutting the motor down 3 miles from home. Motor Craft are the best plug money can buy.
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They didn't have any Champions. I got a set of NGK UR4 Vpower plugs http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...pe=960&ptset=A
I'll see how these do. I know NGK makes good plugs. Didn't know they made them for this motor. They worked good on my 12,500 rpm Honda 954RR.
I'll see how these do. I know NGK makes good plugs. Didn't know they made them for this motor. They worked good on my 12,500 rpm Honda 954RR.
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Autolite isn't much better, I had a set one time and 4 of them melted down shutting the motor down 3 miles from home. Motor Craft are the best plug money can buy.
I've been using NGK UR4's since I've had my truck and have zero complaints
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I've NEVER had any luck with Champion and I've tried them on and off since the mid '60's.
They suck
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Seems to be running quite well with the NGK plugs. Starts up good and smoothed out the acceleration.
I remember one time when I first got into Mustangs. I had a 91 5.0 and used AC Delco plugs for some reason. I never seen anything like it. Every plug was leaking spark from the base of the insulator. The motor glowed blue from the arcing on both sides in the dark and obviously ran horrible. So there's my thoughts on AC Delco plugs anyways.
Last chevy truck I had w/ a 350. I didn't have real good luck with the Autolites in it either.
I'll probably just stick to Champions in my Briggs and Stratton. They seem to work real well there.
I remember one time when I first got into Mustangs. I had a 91 5.0 and used AC Delco plugs for some reason. I never seen anything like it. Every plug was leaking spark from the base of the insulator. The motor glowed blue from the arcing on both sides in the dark and obviously ran horrible. So there's my thoughts on AC Delco plugs anyways.
Last chevy truck I had w/ a 350. I didn't have real good luck with the Autolites in it either.
I'll probably just stick to Champions in my Briggs and Stratton. They seem to work real well there.
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Over 35 years on Champs in FE's without a bit of trouble but I do run each one thru a Champ plug tester at 150 psi before installing. I'd guess the failure rate has been 3 per 96 over the years with app a 20% failure rate on motorcycle plugs. NGK's have also failed on the scooter so it's not only Champs that can fail.
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Originally Posted by Beemer Nut
Over 35 years on Champs in FE's without a bit of trouble but I do run each one thru a Champ plug tester at 150 psi before installing. I'd guess the failure rate has been 3 per 96 over the years with app a 20% failure rate on motorcycle plugs. NGK's have also failed on the scooter so it's not only Champs that can fail.
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I never had a plug failure with NGK's in the bikes but there was a lot of plug swapping in the old days of MX and desert.
Champions did seem to be OK in the mower though.
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I personally wont run Champions period. Never had one bit of luck with them. NGKs i find dont work worth a damn in a pickup at lower RPMS (i rarely use my trucks up past 3000rpm, usually 1200-2000) I find that they foul up or just stop working. I tried hotter and colder and neither worked went over to autolite and not a problem. I put a set of motomaster splitfires in a 351 in a highway truck and it worked good (75K on them and not a problem yet). just my .02 cents.
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I have had good luck with NGK's V-power plugs. They work great in my 4.0L V6. Autolites have had a tendency to suck in most anything I put them in. Champions work well in applications for which they were originally specified (lawn mowers).
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The metal in the Champions is softer than Autolites so the Autolites hold a gap longer. NGK's have their threads rolled(not cut) and plated which makes them stronger and the plating makes them a little easier on the threads in the head-less galling than other plugs. I like Autolite of NGK, no Champs for me.