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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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Ford, GM Launch Joint 6-Speed Automatic

Interesting design for front-wheel drive vehicles. Looks like GM and Ford have decided to work together to help battle Toyota.

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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Kepler4
Interesting design for front-wheel drive vehicles. Looks like GM and Ford have decided to work together to help battle Toyota.
Being that Toyota makes a couple cars for GM I doubt they want to "battle" them. Interesting that GM and Ford made this trans together though.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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Weird indeed, good idea though. And you can't really beat a product when you combine engineers from both companies.

Now...let's see how it performs in the real world.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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Interesting read. I hope all goes well for GM and Ford.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 05:08 AM
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Dont' remember where i read that, but Ford has been coming to GM for trannys for along time. If I can find the article I'll post it.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 11:38 PM
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Mazda has a lot of trannys in Ford vehicles as well
 
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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It makes sense to share parts. Look at 18-wheelers, which have many suppliers in common. The truck maker packages these with its cab and rails, and markets to its desired target.
I'd like to see light trucks done this way. It would be sweet to choose from Cummins and Navistar powerplants, a variety of transmissions, etc, without being locked to one brand of truck.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Electro
Dont' remember where i read that, but Ford has been coming to GM for trannys for along time. If I can find the article I'll post it.
In the early 50's some Lincolns and Mercurys sported GM Hydramatic trannys.

If you're in the market for a new automatic tranny, as a manufactur it would behoove you to to talk to the folks a hydramatic first. Even GM's worst auto is lightyears better than some of the best transmissions other manufacturers have offered..

IIRC I believe BMW had a bit of a swap going on with GM over the manual tranny in the Caddy CTS. The caddy got the BMW manual and in return BMW ended up with one of GM's autos.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Krochus
Even GM's worst auto is lightyears better than some of the best transmissions other manufacturers have offered..
That's your opinion. A lot of owners of autos in Ford, Honda, Toyota, Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, Nissan, etc, etc, would beg to differ with that assessment.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by moldman7n
That's your opinion. A lot of owners of autos in Ford, Honda, Toyota, Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, Nissan, etc, etc, would beg to differ with that assessment.
For many years BMW used GM transmissions

As already stated Ford has used GM transmissions

The older Honda passports used GM transmissions

As a Nissan owner might I add that my maxima has a 6 speed manual. For a reason.

You don't have to get nasty just cause I say that GM makes a good auto. It may be my opinion but it doesn't make it entirely wrong.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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I don't feel what I said was in any way nasty. I've had my share of GM autos and the only thing a couple of them were ahead on was the head of the line at the transmission shop. The early 1950s when Ford used a few GM trannys is quite ancient history in 2006 don't you think?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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1950s when Ford used a few GM trannys is quite ancient history in 2006 don't you think?

I've had my share of GM autos and the only thing a couple of them were ahead on was the head of the line at the transmission shop.

Two examples is hardly a sampling of overall durability of a manufacturers across the board products......... don't you think?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Krochus
Two examples is hardly a sampling of overall durability of a manufacturers across the board products......... don't you think?
Fair enough. I stand by the early 50's being ancient in automotive history terms also.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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Fair enough. I stand by the early 50's being ancient in automotive history terms also.
I'll concede that,

Back on topic... Parts sharing is nothing new. Look at power steering pumps for 80's domestic vehicles. If the domestic manufacturers can use parts from the same vendors the price goes down due to the increased volume and streamlining of production.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Krochus
I'll concede that,

Back on topic... Parts sharing is nothing new. Look at power steering pumps for 80's domestic vehicles. If the domestic manufacturers can use parts from the same vendors the price goes down due to the increased volume and streamlining of production.
You are 100% right on that. Hopefully, we'll see more and more of it.
 
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