A propulsion idea
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"Flat HEAD 6" Ahhh, gotcha.
"Is your HP at the flywheel or at the wheels?" flywheel
"The writer said the acceleration was awsome!" It amazes me how many writers describe economy cars as fast, powerfull, etc. The eco guys are about twice as bad.
I've always been bothered by the fact that you can get 250 miles per charge OR do a 4 second 0-60. A couple hard pulls and your batteries are flat. They seem to be getting better, but batteries just aren't up to the task yet.
"Is your HP at the flywheel or at the wheels?" flywheel
"The writer said the acceleration was awsome!" It amazes me how many writers describe economy cars as fast, powerfull, etc. The eco guys are about twice as bad.
I've always been bothered by the fact that you can get 250 miles per charge OR do a 4 second 0-60. A couple hard pulls and your batteries are flat. They seem to be getting better, but batteries just aren't up to the task yet.
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Originally Posted by derherr65
Just re-read. How did you get a flat six (Porsche) engine in a F2? I'm guessing you mean straight/inline six?
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Other cool but costly ideas
You'd want to find a way to install regenerative brakes. They charge your batteries when you apply the brakes lighly, kinda like a bike generator. You could dramatically increase your city range, and slightly increase highway range.
Solar panel as a bed cover. Hide your batteries like you said, but be useful while doing it. Maybe even convert the hood and cab roof. Charge while sitting everyday.
Skinny high pressure tires = lower drag
Low rider = lower drag
I'd suggest mounting the motors on the transmission crossmember and using the driveshaft. I believe you'll need some gear reduction. Ideally you'd be able to hook the motors together longitudinally. back to front, you know? No gears or belts to sap power.
Solar panel as a bed cover. Hide your batteries like you said, but be useful while doing it. Maybe even convert the hood and cab roof. Charge while sitting everyday.
Skinny high pressure tires = lower drag
Low rider = lower drag
I'd suggest mounting the motors on the transmission crossmember and using the driveshaft. I believe you'll need some gear reduction. Ideally you'd be able to hook the motors together longitudinally. back to front, you know? No gears or belts to sap power.
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8" x 27" MBC-131 Uni-Solar soft panel
Voltage, Typ. Max Power (Volts) 15.60
Current, Typ. Max Power (Amps) .35
0.35 amps per 216 sq inches
A truck has about 15000 sq inches of foot print.
So 70 * 0.35 = 24 amps max output, good sun.
That would be enough to charge about a dozen car batteries in a summer day in Texas. Unfortunately that's also about $10,000 in equipment. The $80k mentioned earlier looks to be a good figure.
Voltage, Typ. Max Power (Volts) 15.60
Current, Typ. Max Power (Amps) .35
0.35 amps per 216 sq inches
A truck has about 15000 sq inches of foot print.
So 70 * 0.35 = 24 amps max output, good sun.
That would be enough to charge about a dozen car batteries in a summer day in Texas. Unfortunately that's also about $10,000 in equipment. The $80k mentioned earlier looks to be a good figure.
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Man, I didn't think I was going to get a physics lesson by starting this thread. I just thought it would be a somewhat interesting thought.
My head is starting to hurt.
My head is starting to hurt.
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Big hidden cost: all batteries have a finite lifetime. Wait until the 60 mpg hybrid car tree huggers get handed the bill for the new set of batteries and disposal fees for the old ones after just a couple/3 years.
They'll be running back to the 15 MPG gas burners...
They'll be running back to the 15 MPG gas burners...
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Originally Posted by AXracer
Big hidden cost: all batteries have a finite lifetime. Wait until the 60 mpg hybrid car tree huggers get handed the bill for the new set of batteries and disposal fees for the old ones after just a couple/3 years. They'll be running back to the 15 MPG gas burners...
You're getting 15? Must be nice. My two consecutive tank record is 11.4mpg so far. Big engine + automatic + aerodynamics of a brickwall = 10.7 mpg average.
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First off BS. The number one polluter worldwide is third world farmers burning crops and forest. The number one polluter in the US is industry. Ofcourse you never can trust advertising, so perhaps that's a no brainer.
I like the 37 coupe. Especially with the optional high output motor. However I notice a lack of pricing. I guess if you have to ask you don't need to know.
EDIT: Oh jeez. "cost estimates for such a battery run from $20,00-80,000" Yup, don't need to know the final price. I can buy a new car every 3 years for the same cost as replacing that cars batteries.
I like the 37 coupe. Especially with the optional high output motor. However I notice a lack of pricing. I guess if you have to ask you don't need to know.
EDIT: Oh jeez. "cost estimates for such a battery run from $20,00-80,000" Yup, don't need to know the final price. I can buy a new car every 3 years for the same cost as replacing that cars batteries.
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