Warranty problems after mods?
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From: Fate, TX
This has been beat to death! The legitimate dealers will live by the law, Hokey ones will say we aren't going to pay for this power door lock switch because the air filter has been changed to an aftermarket.
Ask questions before you buy your truck. It will save you a lot of headaches.
Ask questions before you buy your truck. It will save you a lot of headaches.
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From: Stuttgart, Ar
Originally Posted by Beachbumcook
You are right... but they can and will deny in certain instances and then it's on you to fight. They can deny and then you have to fight.... right or wrong... they make a decision and then wait and see how bad someone will fight it... and they know it!!!
There was a service bulletin to all dealerships advising that for many problems they have the right to request that the truck be returned to stock before attempting to fix or diognose and/ or something to the effect... "look for performance mods" when evaluating a problem."
Maybe some can cut & paste this service/broadcast bulletin... so to refute your post above... they can deny and in a perfect world they would have to prove... but in the "real world" they do not.
There was a service bulletin to all dealerships advising that for many problems they have the right to request that the truck be returned to stock before attempting to fix or diognose and/ or something to the effect... "look for performance mods" when evaluating a problem."
Maybe some can cut & paste this service/broadcast bulletin... so to refute your post above... they can deny and in a perfect world they would have to prove... but in the "real world" they do not.
Question:
I have flashed the vehicle with the new calibration and am now experiencing a lacks power
condition on the vehicle?
Answer:
There are a number of things that could be contributing to a lacks power condition:
Ë Aftermarket parts
o Aftermarket Air Intake Systems including MAF sensors, aftermarket turbocharger
modifications and aftermarket exhaust systems that remove the catalyst.
This was taken from Ford and is just part of a list of things they look for and the causes why. I couldn't fit the whole PDF file here but I think this says quite a bit.
Last edited by npccpartsman; Sep 5, 2006 at 07:58 PM.
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oil or dry
Originally Posted by npccpartsman
You're more likely to have issues with the intake than the exhaust. The stock intake is extremely good---even with some heavy duty mods. A/M intakes--especially cottongauze oiled filters can cause issues with the MAF sensor and dealers look hard at these.
I was thinking of a dry intake like brute force but should I check with the dealership first?
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keeping cat on truck
Originally Posted by cpl624
I am about to jump off and buy an afe stage 2 air intake and an MBRP turbo back exhaust system. Have any of you guys had warranty issues after changing your intake and exhaust. I do plan to keep the cat in place.
Thanks for any help.
Rick.
05 f350CC/LB 4x4 6.0 Lariat Dk Stone
Thanks for any help.
Rick.
05 f350CC/LB 4x4 6.0 Lariat Dk Stone
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From: Stuttgart, Ar
If you're gonna hotrod it--then change the filter. I've got a pretty extreme tune in my truck and I'm running the stock filter setup. I have an airaid "cold air" box sitting in the basement gathering mold and dust. I have no EGT problems and no dust in my turbo. Spend your money on an exhaust, if you haven't already. That's a much more USEFUL mod than the airbox.
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Originally Posted by nunc6.0
I was thinking of a dry intake like brute force but should I check with the dealership first?
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From: Utopia
I am gonna ask my service writer about an exhaust when I take her in for the tranny flush just to et a read on em...I still can't figure out if they are mod friendly or not. I have had gauges on both trucks and words with the sales dept. but service has been good for the most part.
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From: Weatherford Texas.
I was told by the dealer I bought my cat back exhaust from, to stay away from the turbo back even if it leaves the cat in as ford sometimes says that you modified an emissions required part with the new down pipe and can void warranty for it. He has had a couple of customers experience this.
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From: Central IL
Ironic to find this thread tonight after having had conversation with my service manager on this exact topic just a few hours ago. We were test driving to check a tow haul issue and I mentioned this forum to him as a resource I use. I mentioned, to see what reaction he would have, that many of the owners seem to modify their trucks with chips and all sorts of other stuff for power and mileage. He said that he recommended a cool air intake system with a quality or factory air filter and a cat back to improve performance and mileage. Those things would not interfere with the warranty. Anything more and it was a chance of loosing the warranty!
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From: Mexifornia
When I picked up my truck last week from the shop I asked the owner and mech/tech about just adding gauges and their response was that although it would be nice to know your boost and egr temp as a trouble-shooting guide it also makes it very hard to convince ford reps you haven't modified the truck in other ways if there is a big problem and they have to say...start buy back paper work...in other words they told me nothing is without scrutiny if there's a major melt down...is it worth the hassle?
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From: Weatherford Texas.
Originally Posted by bczolone
When I picked up my truck last week from the shop I asked the owner and mech/tech about just adding gauges and their response was that although it would be nice to know your boost and egr temp as a trouble-shooting guide it also makes it very hard to convince ford reps you haven't modified the truck in other ways if there is a big problem and they have to say...start buy back paper work...in other words they told me nothing is without scrutiny if there's a major melt down...is it worth the hassle?
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Originally Posted by wb6anp
Even adding CB/HAM radio gear per a coversation with my dealer, it depends on the mood of the rep.
I could see power inverters and stuff like that improperly wired into a circuit causing problems, but hooking something such as a CB radio into a 12 volt acc. circuit should not be a cause for a problem.
Just to get the rep to put their money where their mouth is... ask for this comment to be put in writing so it can be verified. Getting people to document what they are willing to say verbally usually gets them to back-off the statement or forces them to see the error of their ways. I would speak with the service manager and just politely ask for verification of this reps comment as it seems very "unreasonable", "unrealistic", and "improper".
Good thing I no longer use a CB radio. By the way, my old handle was the "Trailblazer"... good buddy.
Keep the greasy side down and the sunny side up and we'll catch you on the flip-flop.
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From: Lowsyana
The work around on any electrical addition to any vehicle is having a wiring harness and plug that keeps you from cutting or splicing into any factory harness.
The RealACPower generator that I have installed is approved as an addition by FORD. The only point that it taps into the FORD wiring is through the Upfitter Switches. The aftermarket radio that I have installed directly plugs into the factory radio plug and so do the speakers. I think the Audio Manufacturer communtiy got on board a while back with this.
The RealACPower generator that I have installed is approved as an addition by FORD. The only point that it taps into the FORD wiring is through the Upfitter Switches. The aftermarket radio that I have installed directly plugs into the factory radio plug and so do the speakers. I think the Audio Manufacturer communtiy got on board a while back with this.