More PC nonsense
Cargo Master
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From: Pasadena, Maryland
Originally Posted by ATC Crazy
To get a Class III "license" (I used quotes because it's not really a license), you must be over 21, have not been convicted of a crime that is punishable by more than 1 year jail time, fill out a Form 4, and have the CLEO (chief law enforcement officer) of your city sign it.
Send the signed Form 4, $200, 2 passport sized photo ID's, and full set of finger/palm prints to the BATFE. Then you wait anywhere from one month, to 9 months (I've heard of longer...) to hear back from the BATFE.
If you are approved...then you get together with a Class III dealer and tell him what you want.
(Full auto's are not called Class III firearms. They are called NFA. NFA = National Firearms Act of 1934. In 1934, this act went into effect, and full auto's have not been available to the general public since)
Keep in mind that the cheapest NFA you will find are the MAC-10's at around $4,000-$5,000.
Genuine UZI's are about $10K
AK47's are around $16K-$20K
Tommy Guns are around $20K
M16's are around $20K
BAR's and M60's are anywhere from $45K-$75K
Gatlin guns are anywhere from $1/4 mil. to $1/2 Mil
Send the signed Form 4, $200, 2 passport sized photo ID's, and full set of finger/palm prints to the BATFE. Then you wait anywhere from one month, to 9 months (I've heard of longer...) to hear back from the BATFE.
If you are approved...then you get together with a Class III dealer and tell him what you want.
(Full auto's are not called Class III firearms. They are called NFA. NFA = National Firearms Act of 1934. In 1934, this act went into effect, and full auto's have not been available to the general public since)
Keep in mind that the cheapest NFA you will find are the MAC-10's at around $4,000-$5,000.
Genuine UZI's are about $10K
AK47's are around $16K-$20K
Tommy Guns are around $20K
M16's are around $20K
BAR's and M60's are anywhere from $45K-$75K
Gatlin guns are anywhere from $1/4 mil. to $1/2 Mil
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Postmaster
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From: North of Boston MA
Originally Posted by Mil1ion
How did this PC thread get so many GUN related posts ?
We already beat the manager/director thing to death so we moved on. Besides, can't get any more non-PC than talking about guns.
It's all Cuda's fault anyway.
Freaking people from Massachusetts hijacking threads. 
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From: SW VA
Originally Posted by Nitramjr
Or you could get an $89 Chinese made (Norinco) AK47 knockoff and modify the sear assembly and voila! Full auto. I know someone (ahem) who had a .223 AK47 (yes they did make them) that was modified to fire auto. After realizing the trouble it could get him in, my "friend" promptly disposed of said firearm.
Anyone remember the Streetsweeper? Now that was a work of art.....
Anyone remember the Streetsweeper? Now that was a work of art.....
And dont knock chinese guns. They are some very fine rifles (SKS, Poly-Tech AK47...)
Also...I dont think the general NFA owner could legally modify a semi automatic's trigger group to FA. But they could probably buy a FA trigger group and add it to their rifle.
Im not sure though...I will have to check on the laws.
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From: iowa
Originally Posted by ATC Crazy
Keep in mind that the cheapest NFA you will find are the MAC-10's at around $4,000-$5,000.
Genuine UZI's are about $10K
AK47's are around $16K-$20K
Tommy Guns are around $20K
M16's are around $20K
BAR's and M60's are anywhere from $45K-$75K
Gatlin guns are anywhere from $1/4 mil. to $1/2 Mil
Genuine UZI's are about $10K
AK47's are around $16K-$20K
Tommy Guns are around $20K
M16's are around $20K
BAR's and M60's are anywhere from $45K-$75K
Gatlin guns are anywhere from $1/4 mil. to $1/2 Mil
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From: People's republic of MA
Oh sure... blame it on people from Mass. I believe it was you, Nitra, that brought up the Mass law to get me all fired up... Gay marriages in birth certificates and all that crup!
Monster, I'm not sure about those prices... An M16 for 500-600? Where?
Monster, I'm not sure about those prices... An M16 for 500-600? Where?
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Postmaster
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From: North of Boston MA
Originally Posted by ATC Crazy
Where have you seen a $89 Ak47? The cheapest AK's I have ever seen are the single stack, low capacity's, at around $250.
And dont knock chinese guns. They are some very fine rifles (SKS, Poly-Tech AK47...)
Also...I dont think the general NFA owner could legally modify a semi automatic's trigger group to FA. But they could probably buy a FA trigger group and add it to their rifle.
Im not sure though...I will have to check on the laws.
And dont knock chinese guns. They are some very fine rifles (SKS, Poly-Tech AK47...)
Also...I dont think the general NFA owner could legally modify a semi automatic's trigger group to FA. But they could probably buy a FA trigger group and add it to their rifle.
Im not sure though...I will have to check on the laws.
And no, making a semi full auto without the Class 3 license is not legal. That's why my "friend" got rid of that modified .223 AK.
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From: iowa
Originally Posted by Cuda444
Monster, I'm not sure about those prices... An M16 for 500-600? Where?
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From: North of Boston MA
Originally Posted by Cuda444
Oh sure... blame it on people from Mass.
Oh no, can't shoot fish in a barrel anymore. Very, very un-PC.
Cuda, I'll be going through Westboro about 0530 tomorrow morning - I'll beep as I go by on my way to Westover AFB.....
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From: Northern Arizona
Originally Posted by derherr65
And the price for a class III license is?
www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#m
www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcfullau.html
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From: North Texas
Originally Posted by Kepler4
I want a tank to park in my front yard. Who would rob your home when they see a tank in the front yard?
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Westover, I love that place... I went to college in Westfield and A-10's would be constantly flying over... We actually had a couple fly over to kick off the graduation ceremony.
Monster - 600 for a new M16 would be fantastic, but as Kepler said, can't have anything after 1986
Kepler - I remember the days when you could go down to the lake and watch people fish with M80s... What a hoot - Stupid PC
derherr - I think a tank would be freakin sweet. You'd have to make the turret motion tracking so as someone walks up the driveway, the barrel follows them.
Anyone know if, in MA, you can purchase new hi-cap magazines with an LTC-A? Or do they have to be pre-ban?
Monster - 600 for a new M16 would be fantastic, but as Kepler said, can't have anything after 1986
Kepler - I remember the days when you could go down to the lake and watch people fish with M80s... What a hoot - Stupid PC
derherr - I think a tank would be freakin sweet. You'd have to make the turret motion tracking so as someone walks up the driveway, the barrel follows them.
Anyone know if, in MA, you can purchase new hi-cap magazines with an LTC-A? Or do they have to be pre-ban?
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From: iowa
Originally Posted by Cuda444
Monster - 600 for a new M16 would be fantastic, but as Kepler said, can't have anything after 1986
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From: Northern Arizona
Originally Posted by derherr65
I've always wanted a tank trap in the front yard. Maybe you can come over and play when you get your tank.
I'll email you if I get one and we'll party like Vikings!
Monsterbaby, please post or pm me if you find that info. I've never heard about that. Was Tip O'Neil involved?
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From: iowa
No it was the hughes act, put out by William Hughes (D-NJ), the presiding over congress was Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.). funny thing is the actual vote count, and who voted for and against seems to either be lost or declared top secret in the library of congress papers I can find on the internet, although several mentions of it failing and declared passed by Rangel.
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