i dont know about you v but i am through with all this. like v said we dont need nosey owners whenever we work on these trucks because its what we do. if we need you we call promise. as far as you not buying this truck because of a 5800 scanner, that was irrelevant. you wanted to know we were trying to help. maybe you should go buy a duramax or a cummins if you think you can assume how to fix these trucks. as far as this thread and i go, i am done. i hope your problem gets fixed or whatever. as far as i am concerned this is wasted space. have a good day catfish.

 

Hey Bow tie Hater,

What you just said "i dont know about you v but i am through with all this. like v said we dont need nosey owners whenever we work on these trucks because its what we do." is exactly the mentality that I've gotten from my Ford and their service as well.

Sure didn't mean to scare you off, but this board is supposed to be the best of the PS 6.0 forums.

Yeah! I admit, I'm a noisy owner!

And that's what this is all about in my own mind cause I'm the one that has my own money on the line. And ultimately, it seems I pay your salary by owning a Ford.

So get your head screwed on right now about that!

I think you have had some good input here and respect your expertise and see alot of other good feedback you have.

And, I recognize that Ford puts you and the owner at some distance all the time.
Further, it seems like Ford is putting us BOTH at a distance because even if you are the very best Ford 6.0 tech that ever lived, I can't tell you directly as an owner exactly when under what conditions DTC codes were set. In fact, even as an owner, I have no way of telling when a DTC was set, EITHER!

So you are just SOL trying to fix my truck (with nothing for you to go on but a stored DTC code)
AND, I'm just SOL as an owner because I can't tell you when, how or under what conditions the DTC was set, cause I get no indication that the DTC was set.

So like of other 6.0 owners I bring my truck to you, tell you to fix it. So you just read the code take it for a test drive with whatever insturment you have from Ford and then you put a costly turbo in?

Really, I thought I'd get a better direction here and figured that somebody like yourself might realize that the baro sensor might have an influnce have an influence on all the turbo replacements you have done.

Do you know if the trucks you have put turbos in were driven at various altitudes? No you probably don't because all you are doing is reading a code anyway and now we all know that the Baro sensor will never set a code or a CEL.

Personally, I think my turbo was just fine at 20,000 miles and I expect my truck to operate just fine at my altitude. (Always operated fine in the past near my home elevation.. , but probably will not when I take it to higher altitude!)

I'm not going to give up on this, because I respect your opinion and others as well. Further, I think you might be bustin' your knuckles on issues that are not related to bad turbos, but sensors that are "completely haywire" and that you can't test if you wanted to.

The atmospheric pressure sensor (Barometric pressure sensor) must control the VGT when changing altitude becuse to produce similar horsepower or torque it has to cause the VGT up more to work harder to to compress light (less dense) air to compensate for lower altitudes.

Not only that, but the sensor must ALSO reduce the VGT input when a truck is comming down from higher to lower altitudes.

Just becuse an engine stored a P0478 desn't mean the VGT turbo was sticking. Does it? Could not the exact same same code or symptoms happen if the Baro sensor went fubar?

I'd say yes myself. But I've not seen a test yet in your shop that says you can test that sensor in place at various altitudes. That means inside your own shop across the designed range of the sensor. If your shop is 5,000 feet above sea level, you siill don't have a in-shop test that could show that the sensor would indicate properly at 15,000 feet or 500 feet above sea level?

What I have seen is an interest by lots of Ford owners themselves in this area.

In fact they themselves have huge interest in this I think.

You can bash me as a "noisy owner" all you want to, but I'm not leaving just yet.

 

Vloney,

That's what I figured you would say as far as diagnostics is concrned.

Fact of the matter the truck doesn't tell the owner the same things it might tell a technician. (Now as an owner that really makes me P.O'd, but I'm going to try to get beyond that.)

My only issue is how I might to help the tech out when I have no idea as an owner or driver when or under what conditions a DTC code was set. He/she doesn't drive the truck all them time so how would they know what actual driving issues set the code?

Gone from that.

I may have miffed some here because they have not read the thread in entirety.

Dumb I am, but stupid I ain't.

I might get kicked out eventually here, but your feedback is important!

Hang in here!

 

Sorry I asked gang. Did not mean for all of this to happen. Can we all just get along...lol.