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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by toyota hauler
I am not trying to start a flame war, but are you saying that I am WRONG?

Is having aftermarket gauges and or any aftermarket modifications installed on a F-250/350 diesel not recomended?
I am sure some would debate that the stock gauges do work and are adequate, but is there any reason not to have gauges to monitor the diesel's engine and other components?
Look at your statement again and I think that you will answer your own question.

Originally Posted by toyota hauler
Why are you giving me such attitude?
Because I see quotes like your all the time and I am getting a little tired of it.

Look, if you like aftermarket gauges and believe that they help, that's fine, but it is an opinion, not a fact.

People come here for help and advice, but misinformation such as contained in your post isn't helping anyone.

Separating fact from opinion is a talent that is woefully short on this board.
 

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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jschira
Look at your statement again and I think that you will answer your own question.
Because I see quotes like your all the time and I am getting a little tired of it.
Look, if you like aftermarket gauges and believe that they help, that's fine, but it is an opinion, not a fact.
People come here for help and advice, but misinformation such as contained in your post isn't helping anyone.
Separating fact from opinion is a talent that is woefully short on this board.

so your saying aftermarket guages arent needed, which would mean you really dont need a pyrometer. how is knowing exactly what temps your truck is running at a bad thing and it is a fact that the cooler you can keep a tranny the longer it will last not just an opinion
 

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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Muktown
so your saying aftermarket guages arent needed, which would mean you really dont need a pyrometer. how is knowing exactly what temps your truck is running at a bad thing and it is a fact that the cooler you can keep a tranny the longer it will last not just an opinion
You need to learn to read.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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In your first post you said that aftermarket gauges to prolong the life of your truck was nonsense. So he did read. You must not tow or haul anything with your truck or you would see how nice aftermarket gauges are. You also said that a tranny pan with cooling fins and 8 qts of extra tranny fluid won't keep your tranny any cooler than stock. If you had aftermarket gauges you would be able to see how much cooler it actually does keep things. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and different people push their trucks harder than others and need different products to push them safely. For being a civil engineer/patent attorney i would think that you would know that the stock gauge isn't as accurate as aftermarket guages and that an aftermarket pan will keep the tranny cooler than stock.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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Attitudes of some people.....Thinking they are above others.
I would think that if a person is tired of something that he would not expose himself to it anymore and ...........LEAVE
 
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ponch37300
In your first post you said that aftermarket gauges to prolong the life of your truck was nonsense.
No, I did not.

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So he did read.
No, he did not and apparently, neither did you.

Try again.

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You must not tow or haul anything with your truck or you would see how nice aftermarket gauges are. You also said that a tranny pan with cooling fins and 8 qts of extra tranny fluid won't keep your tranny any cooler than stock.
The cooling fins can help, but not the extra fluid, which was the thrust of his post.

Originally Posted by ponch37300
For being a civil engineer/patent attorney i would think that you would know that the stock gauge isn't as accurate as aftermarket guages
Accuracy is irrelevant. Whether the fluid is 190* or 195* doesn't matter. Whether the fluid is 150* or 250 * does matter. The factory gauge will tell you that.
 

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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jschira
No, I did not.

reread your 2nd post where you quoted toyota hauler who was right about guages and you said it was nonsense. Then tell me i cant read
 
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 4X4 IN REFUGIO
Attitudes of some people.....Thinking they are above others.
I would think that if a person is tired of something that he would not expose himself to it anymore and ...........LEAVE
And leave people to spread misinformation?
 
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Muktown
reread your 2nd post where you quoted toyota hauler who was right about guages and you said it was nonsense. Then tell me i cant read
Since we are having a little trouble with our language skills here today, I will explain, this time typing a little slower.

Here is what was said:

I got a lot of great info and knew right away that aftermarket gauges I got a lot of great info and knew right away that aftermarket gauges were a necessity to prolong the life of the truck.
Do you get it now, or do you need a hint?
 
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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Maybe you should go back and read what you wrote....

Quote:
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I got a lot of great info and knew right away that aftermarket gauges were a necessity to prolong the life of the truck.

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Quote from jschira....

That is absolute nonsense

You obviously have your opinion and you are the only one i have ever heard with your thinking about gauges. So everyone here can either take your advice which you claim is fact or side with the guys that have been sled pulling, hauling trailers across country, or take what i know for a fact from experience that my after market gauges are more responsive and accurate than the stock gauges. Any stock gauge that starts out over half way up on its scale when cold and barely moves while your driving can't be accurate. Do your truck a favor and buy an aftermarket gauge and see for yourself. Then when you have an accurate gauge buy a mag hytec tranny pan and see again for yourself how much the temp drop. Or maybe everyone just buys these pans for looks like you said about everyone buying gauges just for looks. Maybe if you had these things on your truck you might have some credibility of what you say but when you don't and everything else i have read, experienced, and heard from diesel mechanics, and read in diesel magazines disagree with you.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ponch37300
Maybe you should go back and read what you wrote....
You need to read my last post.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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You can argue all you want but i along with everyone else here(since not one person even came close to agreeing with you) know for a fact that you are wrong in your thinking. If you are going to use your truck and push it in any way you should have gauges to monitor things since the stock tranny gauge isn't accurate. If your not going to be pushing your temps ever(the only reason gauges wouldn't be a NECESSITY) then maybe you should buy a moped and go groccery shopping. If you are pushing your temps at all do yourself and your truck a favor and get some gauges.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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im pretty glad i didnt get into this argument because i know i would have made an *** of myself like some of the people who have participated in it.


i think the point that the stock transmission gauge is worthless when you are towing has already been proved. see my link in one of the first few posts.

and for all of this bickering about something that is not really related to the topic of a transmission temp gauge, you all deserve a
 
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ponch37300
If your not going to be pushing your temps ever(the only reason gauges wouldn't be a NECESSITY) then maybe you should buy a moped and go groccery shopping. If you are pushing your temps at all do yourself and your truck a favor and get some gauges.
Now we have a caveat.
 
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