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A while back I posted some mild prformance mods that I was going to put on my 3.0 to see if I could drag some ponies out of the motor. Heres what I've done.
MAC Air intake and filter
Helix Throttle Body Spacer
Jet Performance Mass Air Flow Sensor
JBA Shorty Headers
Jet Performance Module
FlowMaster cat back and muffler
I finish the headers tonight and get the exhaust done on Fri morn and then snap in the module. I will let everyone know how it feels and how much it comes to life. Combinations are trickey. Sometimes they work well together and sometimes they dont. Its called dialin in. With any luck and some educated guessing along with research. The combo of these parts and companies will wake up the 3 slow.
I'll post on Fri for all to see the results. AND I'm curious to compare drag times with the guys that are talking about that. I know I wont come close but Im curious to see the diff with my bolt on mods. I'll also post all the stuff and its cost including shipping and tax. Later,
According to the research and development people, the TBI spacer does help. I do not know if their horsepower gain is accurate but so far just with the intake, TBI, and Mass Airflow. It runs much better but I'll finish it up in a couple of days with the exhaust and module and let ya'll know. I do not have the equipment to dyno it. It should be just shy of 200 hp. I have an 02 Ranger edge Supercab, 2WD, 373's stuffed in a 7.50 rearend. Type at ya'll later,
Every dyno test I've seen has shown the TB spacer to have zero to little effect. That being said, it's on the 4.0L, may be a different case for the 3.0L. I know on carbed engines it made a large difference, and Wendell said there was a good difference on his 4.0L Jeep (unrelated engines). So it's an engine to engine thing really.
Thats a good list of parts, the thing that will bring it all together is the tune, with that said, jet is sorta generic. I think you would see amazing reasults if you used a bama programer. I've used jet chips before, and wasn't at all impressed, the bama programer is like night, and day in the difference it makes in your truck. As good as it will run with the jet(hopefully), it will run twice as good with the bama. I have basically the same parts as you, it was sorta disapointing, before the bama, but now with the bama, it romps !!!!
I wouldn't see why not, drop Doug e-mail ata www. bama chips.com. I'm pretty sure of it, ford hasn't done any major changes to the ranger computer that I know of. To build your programer, he uses the 4 digit number off of your computer, it's also in the door jam, it's not generic it will be a costume tune just for your truck.
I have done everytihing I could find for my 98 ranger with the 3.0 except the jet MAF sensor what kind of gain or difference could I excpect with the MAF upgrade?????
Here is a list of all my mods ( Mac cold air intake, helix TB spacer, underdrive pulleys, JBA shorty headers, 2.25" true dual exhaust no mufflers, SCT programer with three tunes for 87, 91, and 93 octane, performance plugs & wires, and I removed the fan clutch and fan to install a electric fan, I even tryed a electric turbo/ blower)
"Well" jdhudall, how does it run with all those mods ? I don't think the bigger maf will help unless you have forced induction, other than that the stock maf should be able to handle all your mods. Of course you could try the bigger maf, larger injectors and a high lift cam, also port and polish the heads, maybe shave them alittle to raise compresion. The most important thing with these types of mods is to get them dialed in. Doug at bama chips does most of our tunes, he also uses the sct programer for his programs, he's good. Even at that, there is only so much he can do by mail. To get a 100% on the money, it's best to get your truck dyno tuned, but it can get pricey, so most of us just trust Doug at bama chips. So with all your mods, whats your butt dyno telling you.
I feel a great deal more power than stock it has a lot of get up and go even with my 305/70R16 tires and lift kit! I don't have any dyno #s but It has had a huge improvment from when I first started! I just wanted to know if the Jet MAF would give me more hp if any or just a little better flow over stock!
Originally Posted by wendell borror
"Well" jdhudall, how does it run with all those mods ? I don't think the bigger maf will help unless you have forced induction, other than that the stock maf should be able to handle all your mods. Of course you could try the bigger maf, larger injectors and a high lift cam, also port and polish the heads, maybe shave them alittle to raise compresion. The most important thing with these types of mods is to get them dialed in. Doug at bama chips does most of our tunes, he also uses the sct programer for his programs, he's good. Even at that, there is only so much he can do by mail. To get a 100% on the money, it's best to get your truck dyno tuned, but it can get pricey, so most of us just trust Doug at bama chips. So with all your mods, whats your butt dyno telling you.
My common sense and gut tell me no, your engine has to be able to do something with all that increased flow, without head work and a bigger cam or forced induction, I don't see it as helping. But I have limited to no experience with the 3.0, so I can't tell you for sure. Maybe Bob Jusnes would know, he messes with alot of performace stuff. If he doesn't pickup on this post, drop him an e-mail at jusnesmodified.com.
A MAF on the ranger wont really help much. The only case you would need a larger one is with forced induction. For instance, whipple provides a 4.0 MAF with their 3.0 kit. The other problem is tuning. Granatelli used to make MAFs for the rangers, but stopped because they couldnt get stable readings with them. They said that most manufacturers for the rangers had similar problems.
At any rate, it would need to be tuned on a dyno, and from past experiences, it could take hours to dial it in, especially if its giving unstable readings. Then youre looking at hundreds of $$$ to tune in a MAF that probably wont give you any more power.
And I also agree that youre definately not at your full potential with that JET chip, In all honesty, you should sell it and get a BamaChips custom tuner, which can actually take advantage of the other mods you have, and certainly give you more power.
Also, TB spacers are worthless paperweights on these trucks. Just think. What is the purpose? On older vehicles, carb spacers were used to lenthen the track the air follows to get to the cylinders. Vehicle manufacturers picked up on this trick, and just about any engine from the 90s on already has a long runner intake manifold integrated. Spacing that another inch wont do anything at all. And all this spinning helix baloney does nothing but make the air turbulent, slowing it down. Sell it and put it towards a BamaChips tuner.
Dont even get me started on electric turbos and blowers, haha
PS, If anyone with a 3.0 wants more power, I happen to have a factory remanufactured 3.0 whipple kit, with a 6 month warranty, MAF, ported intake manifold, and tunes for sale. This was the kit that BamaChips actually used on their 3.0 ranger. BamaChips may even work out a deal on installation and dyno tuning it. It will be on ebay soon, I can keep you guys updated
Last edited by Bob Jusnes; Oct 14, 2006 at 09:18 AM.
Dont even get me started on electric turbos and blowers, haha
PS, If anyone with a 3.0 wants more power, I happen to have a factory remanufactured 3.0 whipple kit, with a 6 month warranty, MAF, ported intake manifold, and tunes for sale. This was the kit that BamaChips actually used on their 3.0 ranger. BamaChips may even work out a deal on installation and dyno tuning it. It will be on ebay soon, I can keep you guys updated
Bob, I have heard that Whipple no longer makes a 3.0L supercharger kit.
If something goes wrong with it, who will support it, or provide replacment parts?
Whipple will. We just sent in the main unit to be remanufactured by whipple, and it has a 6 month warranty on it. In the future, whipple will still be able to support the main components of the kit.
We are going to put it on ebay, and because its no longer offered by whipple, and because of the extra goodies Doug had with it on his own truck, we are hoping to get about $3000 for it on ebay. And like I mentioned, Doug is willing to work out installation and dyno tuning if you are willing to go to his place in Alabama.
Ill post more about it when we are ready to sell it, he is thinking he may keep it and get another 3.0 ranger, haha.