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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 09:34 AM
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I'm having alot of trouble with my ERG Valve. Went bad and kicked on the check engine light so i replaced the valve and reset the computer but the light keeps coming back on?? Any Advise??
 
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 12:00 AM
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The most common problem, if the ports aren't clogged is a faulty DPFE (egr sensor). These commonly fail and throw the P0401 code.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 07:33 AM
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Is the sensor one the pipe that goes down to the exhaust manifold?
 
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 07:46 AM
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EGR valves rarely fail. Must have been another AutoZone (mis)diagnosis...

The DPFE sensor is connected to the twho small hoses/lines that branch off the EGR tube.

P0401 codes are almost always due to either clogged ports or a faulty DPFE sensor.

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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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What is this DPFE part really called? I have the same problem and "DPFE" does not show up in their computers so they don't know what it is. Is this the same thing as an "EGR Pressure Feedback Sensor?" Am I correct in assuming this is not a "EGR Valve Position Sensor?" None of these parts are cheap enough that I want to take a chance at getting the wrong thing.
 

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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by zuikoman
What is this DPFE part really called? I have the same problem and "DPFE" does not show up in their computers so they don't know what it is. Is this the same thing as an "EGR Pressure Feedback Sensor?" Am I correct in assuming this is not a "EGR Valve Position Sensor?" None of these parts are cheap enough that I want to take a chance at getting the wrong thing.
I believe it may go by both names. At Advance Auto it goes by EGR Valve Position Sensor. It's about $56.

Oh, its real name: Differential Pressure Feedback EGR
 
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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EGR Pressure Feedback Sensor is the cheap one to get... I guess I'll go with that. That one is about 30 bucks: AIRTEX 5S2040. The EGR Valve Position Sensor is about 55-60 bucks and comes in Standard Motor Products and AC Delco. I haven't been able to find a picture of the 5S2040 to compare to the others. Hopefully they are the same thing.
 
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There are two different physical styles of DPFE sensors that are not interchangeable.

Specific application is by year and engine model.

The older style is rectangular, is mounted to an engine component, typically the intake, and is connected to the EGR sample tube by by two rubber hoses.

The newer style sensor plugs directly onto the two metal EGR sample tubes.

WARNING! If you replace this sensor without testing for EGR flow first and still get the P0401 code, I will say "I told you so!". Test the EGR valve and the ports first. Failure to do so may result in your wasting even more of your time and money. Diagnostic instructions have been posted dozens of times...

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Originally Posted by projectSHO89
WARNING! If you replace this sensor without testing for EGR flow first and still get the P0401 code, I will say "I told you so!". Test the EGR valve and the ports first. Failure to do so may result in your wasting even more of your time and money. Diagnostic instructions have been posted dozens of times...
Good call Steve!
 
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by projectSHO89
There are two different physical styles of DPFE sensors that are not interchangeable.

Specific application is by year and engine model.
Both of those (EGR Pressure Feedback Sensor and EGR Valve Position Sensor) are listed under my vehicle... a 1995 Lincoln Town car with the 4.6L V8. They are different manufacturers so they may be the same part for all I know. I know I need a rectangular style but I haven't been able to find a picture of that AIRTEX part anywhere to know what it is the one or not. I'd have to order any of these parts so I can't see them first... nobody seems to have them in stock. It would sure be easier if everybody called this part by one name .
 
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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Try this, it may help

I just spent a couple of days figuring my P0401 code out. I learned more than I wanted to know about this system. I have taken some photos and put together a slide show about how I troubleshot my system, this may help others. I am not a certified Auto Mechanic, nor do I work for Ford, etc. If I made a mistake, please let me know and I will correct.




http://home.coastalnow.net/~a64armt...0401/Slide1.JPG

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http://home.coastalnow.net/~a64armt...0401/Slide3.JPG

http://home.coastalnow.net/~a64armt...0401/Slide4.JPG

http://home.coastalnow.net/~a64armt...0401/Slide5.JPG
 
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Old May 26, 2007 | 12:58 AM
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Very well done! Thank you for taking the time.
 
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