Just finished mounting a 289/C4 combo in my '62 with straight axle. I built a dropped crossmember out of 2 x 4 tubing laying on its side and went under the pan by about an inch to inch and a half. I set it far enough forward to clear the axle in case I want to lower ride height and used '67 Fairlane motor mounts to 2 x 2 tubing to attach to the crossmember. This set up allows headers to drop more or less straight down and makes clearance for the exhaust past the old trans crossmember a lot easier. I much prefer the crossmember style of mount because the frame channels have little resistance to torsion and a heavy/strong motor will constantly flex them. It may have been overkill, but my engineer brain would not leave me alone.

 

I checked on the rearsump oil pan for you.
A rear sump oil pan for a 80-96 F-series truck w a 351W or a rearsump for a mustang from 79-93 will fit in your truck w/o hitting anything
Just thought Id let you know

 

I forgot to post this a minute ago..
If you want a set of Hedman headers the part number is HED-88400 and they will clear te firewall on the passenger side and they have 1 1/2'' primary's and 2 1/2'' collectors. I know they will clear with a C4 and I think they'll clear with a C6 but Im not 100% positive.

 

Mark,
Thanks for jumping in. Your pictures were very helpful. I do have one more question for you, however, and I will put this discussion to bed. I tore apart my straight axel about a year ago and have now had the new King Pin bushings installed and am read to put the spindles back on. My question is this. The two spindles appear to be identicle, but are there rights and lefts? Each spindle has a longer flang which I assume go on the top, but someone told me that the grease fittings should be facing the rear. If I mount these spindles up, one set of grease fittings will face the rear and the other will face the front. Can you clear this up for me? Thanks again for all your help and input. JL:-)

 

ok I added two pictures to my front end gallery. I know my spindles are dirty but you can see that the left side has the grease fitting facing back and the right side is facing forward. I hope this helps.

 

Anybody know what motor mounts Id need to use for a 460/C6 in a 66 Ford Truck... Thats what Im putting in it shortly, Im tired of the big 390 I'll just freshener that engine up and shelf it...

 

Look under 75-96 Ford vans and 4x4 trucks and Broncos for a 302 rear sump oilpan. 79-up Mustangs, Thunderbirds, and Crown Vics had dual sump oilpans. Either one will give you more room on the bottom of the front of the engine if you need it.
Andy, Ford offered 460's in trucks in the mid to late 70's that will have the motor mounts you need. Make sure you get everything for the swap.

 

Thanks so much, Mark, you have made my day. By the way, with the additional weight of the 460, are you planning any type of power steering for the '64? Have a great day.
JL

 

Here is some info I gleaned from The GoodGuys Gazette. The article was by Brent Vandevort, owner of FatMan Fabrications. He listed what oilpans could be used when we are hotrodding our beloved trucks. I also added some info that I have learned over the years. One reason some streetrodders used the small block C%$#y is because of the rear sump oilpan would clear the crossmember. To me, using those engines in a Ford is like requesting an AIDS transplant. To use the good blue motors, here are some suggestions. Be sure to get the correct oil pump pickup screen and main bearing bolt for the appropriate oilpan.

for 289/302 79-93 Mustangs used the dual sump pans, available from Ford Motorsports as a complete kit #M-6675-C302. The Crown Victorias and 80-up T-birds also used a dual sump pan. Also look for 75-91 vans and the early Broncos for a rear sump oilpan.
for 351 Windsor a dual sump pan was available on 80-87 F150 and includes E7TZ-6675-E pan, C6TZ-6345-C bolt, E3TZ-6622-G pickup screen, E6UZ-6750-D dipstick, and E4UZ-6754-A dipstick tube. Again, a rear sump was available from 75-91 vans and also 4x4 trucks. The van pan is available as a kit #M-6675-A58
for 351C/400 he says that there was a rear sump pan on the 80-82 F150 that is now obsolete. I know there were a few vans with a 400 in them that would have it but I have only seen one. Again, this was a popular option with 75-79 4x4's. Canton makes a dual sump pan to fit in fox-chassis Mustangs. Part numbers #15-720 with #15-721 screen and bolt and #20-850 dipstick kit.
FE series, 352,360, 390, 428 Brent didn't know of any numbers but I know from personal experience that the 4x4's used a rear sump oilpan up to 1976. I am using the oilpan from a FT (330/361/391) big truck engine. It is about 7" deep the entire length of the engine. This will provide an extra 2-3 quarts of oil. This is recommended if you are using a high-volume oilpump as FE's are slow to drain back to the pan and it is possible to drain the pan. Cheap insurance.
for 429/460 Ford has a rear sump kit #M-6675-A460. Again, in junkyards under 75-91 vans (maybe newer too) and 4x4 trucks. Milodon, Moroso, and Canton all make new ones. Canton, order #15-770, #15-771 for the screen and bolt, and #20-850 for the dipstick kit. ...... He suggests using motor mounts from a 69-72 Galaxie found at NAPA as #602-1144 and #602-1145.
There are probably more than listed here but this will end some of the late-night garage head scratching.

 

I plan on swapping in the power steering set up from the Lincoln I have. I even have a power steering fluid assisted brake booster too. Not too sure if I want to spend the money to have it repaired though. The front end was hit and the brake booster and master cyclinder sustained the most damage, broke the mounting flanges on both. I just have to remove the steering gear from the Lincoln to see what I have to play with.

 

Mark,
The reason I am interested in your power steering is I want to know how you are going to add power to the straight axel set up. I am going to try an old route and use a power steering box out of an '84 Toyota. With a properly made bracket, the Toyota spline will fit throught the old spline site on the frame. If I can manage the bracket, I plan on mating an '86 Tbird tilt column to make it complete. Any insights into this option you may know about is greatly appreciated. Thanks again for all you interest and help. JL

 

I found an article in one of my magazines covering the 59 Chevy power steering conversion. It has a very stricking resemblence to the same set up I have. It shows how to modify the steering linkage to convert to a outside forward mounted steering box. I am going to be looking at how this setup will actually fit or if it will work. So I will post more at a later time when I have my parts removed from the Lincoln and be able to see a mock set up.