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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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Jumpy speedometer 4.9L M5R2 2wd

I am trying to figure out a troubleshooting path for my jumpy speedometer. I've lived with this issue for many years and have replaced the RABS on the rear differential and tried a different instrument cluster but neither fixed the problem.

I also put a new connector on the end that connects to the RABS sensor. I was trying to clean this connector recently and damaged the one I had put on and ended up having to drive the truck without the RABS connected so I left the wires hanging without the connector on. While driving on the freeway I noticed my speedometer was going from 0-5 MPH! I drove 200 miles like this and the speedometer only did the 0-5 MPH for a short time, say 20 miles or so.

Does my transmission have a VSS that I should try replacing? The wires that go to the RABS, where do they go to next? Any suggestions on what could be causing this? I am fairly certain the RABS and instrument cluster work correctly.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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manual says to check these thing if speedo jumpy.



check for presence of the following conditions:

damaged missing or bent teeth

metal chips on speed sensor

open or shorted sensor

improper gap between sensor and speed sensor ring


i will add: change the rear gear fluid
 

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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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No other VSS other than the rear axle. Follow the above advice to start...
 
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by quicklook2
manual says to check these thing if speedo jumpy.



check for presence of the following conditions:

damaged missing or bent teeth

metal chips on speed sensor

open or shorted sensor

improper gap between sensor and speed sensor ring


i will add: change the rear gear fluid

Thanks for the info and suggestions. I took the speed sensor off recently when I was trying to put on the new connector for it, it had a little bit of metal on it I cleaned off. I looked at the ring it reads and it looked fine but I didn't turn the rear wheels to check the entire ring (on the to do list).

I had the speed sensor ring changed many years ago and it didn't fix the problem at that time.

What I found strange was how the speedo jumped a little when the RABS/VSS wasn't even plugged in (which leads me to believe the RABS/VSS is fine).

I'll try and put a washer under the sensor/bolt to increase the distance between it and the ring.

I had a friend change my rear axle seals year or two ago and he said he changed the diff fluid but I'll keep that in mind too.

I seen the wires from the RABS/VSS runs up the drivers side frame rail, I'm going to try and trace it... does anyone know where it runs to? Is any other sensor used to feed the speedo that could be causing noise? (if the RABS wasn't the VSS I was thinking that might be it but I can't find the VSS, I guess because I don't have it)
 
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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rabs/vss is only in the rear axle.

i will look in manual again but it says that if it isn't what is listed than to replace the instrument panel, but you said you tried that.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 09:12 PM
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I heard somewhere that the new PSOM's were calibrated differently, less sensitive to the signal generated by the tone ring. It might make a difference if you swapped for one of the new calibration PSOM's. I think it has a "3" at 12:00 above the speedo, hidden by the dash bezel until it's removed. The old calibration was a "2". When I replaced my PSOM for a stall condition, it also cured the speedometer waver at 50+ mph.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Cheggie
I heard somewhere that the new PSOM's were calibrated differently, less sensitive to the signal generated by the tone ring. It might make a difference if you swapped for one of the new calibration PSOM's. I think it has a "3" at 12:00 above the speedo, hidden by the dash bezel until it's removed. The old calibration was a "2". When I replaced my PSOM for a stall condition, it also cured the speedometer waver at 50+ mph.
Yeah, I remember hearing of this too, where is the PSOM located? (dont stay instrument cluster )! The instrument cluster I have is an older one from Ebay, I'm fairly certain it would be the older one like my stocker.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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I had a speedo that was jumpy it ended up being the speedo itself, I grabbed a new clustor from the junk yard plugged it in and it was the end of my jumpy speedo
 
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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One really important piece of information is what year is your truck? Everyone is assuming you have an electronic speedometer that runs off the VSS, but that was only the case in 92 and newer trucks.

Always check the obvious first.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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One really important piece of information is what year is your truck? Everyone is assuming you have an electronic speedometer that runs off the VSS, but that was only the case in 92 and newer trucks.

Always check the obvious first.
Oops, meant to put that in the thread topic. She's a '96. I'm thinking the damn PSOM is in the instrument cluster and I need a rev3 one. Something tells me that'll cost a pretty penny from Ford. It sounds like a dealer has to order it too, I hope I don't have to pay for them to install, what a rip.

I can't think of anything else to test at this point. Maybe a bad ground somewhere?
 
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 11:51 AM
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New intrument clusters with good PSOMs can be had on Ebay for like $50.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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Or your local junkyard for a similar price. With a part like that, I wouldn't get one from Ford.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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I got a replacement at dashusa dot com, and it was about $200. They sell the rev3 PSOM, and it works like a champ. Hey - it's cheaper than most car payments! You need to tell them the current mileage and calibration constant, and they'll send it right to you, ready to go. It's not hard to install, and you don't have to pay Ford! It is an exchange part, so you have to send your old unit in upon receipt of the new part.

I really needed it - it was causing a stall because the speedometer was LYING to the pcm and activating the fuel cutoff at 3 mph.
 
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