First Blackstone Lab Oil Report
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First Blackstone Lab Oil Report
Got my first oil report for my truck after buying it used and doing my second oil change. For right now, I'm just trying to establish that the motor is healthy. So, 5,000 miles on the oil. The report came back good for the following.
fuel<0.5%
antifreeze 0.0%
water 0.0%
insolubles 0.2%
All under the range.
The things that have me worried is aluminum, chrome and iron. Mine seemed a bit high.
aluminum=7 universal avg.=2
chromium=2 =1
iron=19 =17
Anyone speculate a cause for this? Is there excessive cylinder wall wear or piston ring problem? The report said, "Upper-end wear (aluminum, chrome and iron from pistons, rings and cylinders respectively) was generally higher than average though nothing was high enough to show a major problem."
I swear I saw little metal flakes in the waste oil drain pan. I also cut open the oil filter but didn't find anything in there.
I just want this truck to last. Any thoughts?
As always, THANKS!
fuel<0.5%
antifreeze 0.0%
water 0.0%
insolubles 0.2%
All under the range.
The things that have me worried is aluminum, chrome and iron. Mine seemed a bit high.
aluminum=7 universal avg.=2
chromium=2 =1
iron=19 =17
Anyone speculate a cause for this? Is there excessive cylinder wall wear or piston ring problem? The report said, "Upper-end wear (aluminum, chrome and iron from pistons, rings and cylinders respectively) was generally higher than average though nothing was high enough to show a major problem."
I swear I saw little metal flakes in the waste oil drain pan. I also cut open the oil filter but didn't find anything in there.
I just want this truck to last. Any thoughts?
As always, THANKS!
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Silicon numbers high? That would indicate dust and dirt getting past the air filter, causing the higher wear metal numbers.
Blackstone's written analysis is pretty good, and easy to understand. When you send in your next one, they will be looking through your records to see if trends are developing.
They are my lab of choice for lube oils.
Pop
Blackstone's written analysis is pretty good, and easy to understand. When you send in your next one, they will be looking through your records to see if trends are developing.
They are my lab of choice for lube oils.
Pop
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Silicon numbers high? That would indicate dust and dirt getting past the air filter, causing the higher wear metal numbers.
Zinc was high too. 1320. Average=1278.
i heard that the kit is free, all you do is request it? then pay for the test to be done, what, $20?
Any more thoughts? Thanks for the reply POP.
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Kris,
Yes, go to their site and request a kit. They will get it out to you in a couple of weeks, along with instructions what to do.
After you send in a sample, they will send you a couple of more kits. After you use them, you can request more. I currently have five left on the shelf.
They will send your first report both "hard-copy" and as a PDF. After that, you can get them "just PDF" if you want.
EDIT: Oooops. There's apparent simultaneous typing going on around here. ;-)))
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Yes, go to their site and request a kit. They will get it out to you in a couple of weeks, along with instructions what to do.
After you send in a sample, they will send you a couple of more kits. After you use them, you can request more. I currently have five left on the shelf.
They will send your first report both "hard-copy" and as a PDF. After that, you can get them "just PDF" if you want.
EDIT: Oooops. There's apparent simultaneous typing going on around here. ;-)))
Pop
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Originally Posted by wilbur996
fuel<0.5%
antifreeze 0.0%
water 0.0%
insolubles 0.2%
aluminum=7 universal avg.=2
chromium=2 =1
iron=19 =17
antifreeze 0.0%
water 0.0%
insolubles 0.2%
aluminum=7 universal avg.=2
chromium=2 =1
iron=19 =17
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My next oil change is coming up and I already received the kit.
My wife looked at me and said "You dont even go to the doctor for a checkup, but you are getting one for your truck! YOu are nuts!"
Lol, they just dont understand.
My wife looked at me and said "You dont even go to the doctor for a checkup, but you are getting one for your truck! YOu are nuts!"
Lol, they just dont understand.
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Originally Posted by wilbur996
Silicon was at a 4. Average=9
Zinc was high too. 1320. Average=1278.
Zinc was high too. 1320. Average=1278.
First your silicon and iron numbers are really not very high, nothing out of line in what you have posted. Zinc is an AW additive, part of the ZDDP package found in ell oils. Also many people get hung up in a few ppm difference in readings between theirs and someone elses results, when it is in the noise of the resolution ability of the analysis anyway.
It would also be good to post which oil this was used for the interval. and post the TBN too.
You can go Here http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/...ubb=forum;f=26 to get an idea about other analysis' on like engines or oil and how to read them.
You can also go here http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/whatisoilanalysis.htm to get an idea of what metals are what and what is part of the add package.
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It would also be good to post which oil this was used for the interval. and post the TBN too
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So basically after 5000 miles, with low wear metals and high TBN, this oil is hardly used. based on that report it could easily go to twice the miles. although you also did not list the viscosity so we don't know if it is thinning down or thickening up any. But with insolubles so low I doubt that it is thickening up significantly yet.
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kris, one thing to mention read the instructions I was going to send mine, but it said either run till engine at operating temp, like 15 minutes, or not at all. I had already started my truck to warm a little then was in process of draining when reading those important words. So next time I'll get the analysis.
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although you also did not list the viscosity so we don't know if it is thinning down or thickening up any
So, your consenses is that this is pretty normal? It does not seem way out of line from the normal, I think. Like I said, this is my first test so I'm trying to understand everything.
TIA
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