Pertronix VS Accel
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Pertronix VS Accel
So I keep reading a lot about the Pertronix points eliminator setup, and it seems to give good results. I was going to install a points eliminator kit in my truck for my next mod, and I was looking into the setup offered through Accel (part# 2020). So whats better? Whats the greatest difference you have noticed with either? Bottomline-Accel or Pertronix-Who sells the better product here?
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I bought the Pertronix points eliminator setup and it did'nt work. I called Pertronix support and that did'nt help either. I sent it back and got my refund and put the points back in. I have read that Accel or Crane is the way to go if you are looking to keep the stock dist. Or you check into Davis Unified Ignition but it looks to much like a GM part
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I vote for the Performance Distributors HEI/DUI setup. Yes, it's a reworked GM part, but big deal. One wire to hook up, they custom curve it for your truck, and it works. I had one in my 84, that same distributor is going in my 69 soon. I was running a .060" gap on the 84, it was the only thing that would reliably light off that engine.
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Just swapping in a points replacement unit will not cure all the woes of a stock distributor with a gadzillion miles of wear on it. My vote goes to the "plug and play" distributors with the built in GM style coil. Trouble free and work great. All new parts is better then a patched up worn out unit......
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Look into Crane's XRI system if you want to eliminate points but you must still use a ballast resistor, same with their XR700 series system. Spend your money once and step up another notch to their XR3000 inductive ignition system that run a full 12 volts to the coil without ballast resistor for a higher secondary current at the plugs, current means heat energy to the plugs.
At over 800K miles without failure with Crane systems vs MSD and Pertronics failures of 5 within 47K miles on the road. I use what works and it's Crane.
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At over 800K miles without failure with Crane systems vs MSD and Pertronics failures of 5 within 47K miles on the road. I use what works and it's Crane.
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distributer..clearance
As of now i have stayed away from hot rod parts on my ford..but i know things would run better with more and better fire..but on the 427 there is not very much clearance between the carbs and dist..if anyone has tryed these dist. on the 2-4 setup please let me know..thanks..bill... 
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Originally Posted by Beemer Nut
Look into Crane's XRI system if you want to eliminate points but you must still use a ballast resistor, same with their XR700 series system. Spend your money once and step up another notch to their XR3000 inductive ignition system that run a full 12 volts to the coil without ballast resistor for a higher secondary current at the plugs, current means heat energy to the plugs.
At over 800K miles without failure with Crane systems vs MSD and Pertronics failures of 5 within 47K miles on the road. I use what works and it's Crane.
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At over 800K miles without failure with Crane systems vs MSD and Pertronics failures of 5 within 47K miles on the road. I use what works and it's Crane.
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800,000 miles????? All on one truck and one engine???? Curious how long a time period to rack up that many miles...... The crane stuff costs about 3 times as much, it should outlast a plug and play.... But 800,000 without any parts breakage on the ignition system, hmmm... Never seen any ignition system that good.....
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Yup, 360 in the 69 Flareside F250 owned since 71 with 473K, replaced rod bearings, oil pump and valve job until 743K not counting the 8% slow odometer error with 33" tires. Got tired of 360 and built the 410 which now has 257K that was installed into a 68 CS when purchased. The original 360 got a Allison ignition system when it came out which now is owned by Crane and called their XR700, it's still running close to 900K miles these days. A newer unit now called Crane's XR700 has 231K in a friends 428 that I gave him as I stepped up to a XR3000 to get away from reduced coil current because of ballast to coil. Ask Greg GTEX about the failures with MSD units like I had as well I had 3 Pertronics failures on the road when they came out on other vehicles. Never had a failure with Crane, well my friend did when his 67 460 powered truck went down a boat ramp into 14' of saltwater. Crane replaced the control box free, we flushed it with fresh water then dried it out before calling them with a strange failure.
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wow! good feedback. 800,000 miles!? thats crazy. ok, so mabe the xri system maybe the best way to go ("Beemer Nut"). i checked my distributor yesterday, and there is definately some play (worn bushing). so in the end i will have to put in a distributor. good point about fixing up a worn distributor(Dave Severson), not really much point in that. so whats the "plug and play" setup you're talking about? never heard of it.
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two other options you may want to try is using a stock electronic ignition out a 73-79 truck coupled with an msd 6a, or trying a mallory unilite setup. i used the unilite system without any trouble. i sold it when one of my motors had some mechanical trouble an as far as i know it is still working great for the guy who baught it. it installs under the cap and works well with stock or after market coils.
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360 sport, xri isn't the best way to go as your limited with having to use a ballast resistor or the ignition resistor wire feeding the coil. That is the same with early Allison in the 70's and now called the XR700 by Crane. Another step up without limiting coil current with a full 12 volts to the coil is the XR3000 ignition system by Crane. These are light triggered vs magnetic. This is a inductive system with a long spark duration vs a short spark duration of a CD system. Invest your money once on a good ignition system.
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http://www.performancedistributors.com/forddui.htm Here is a plug & play
http://www.cranecams.com/?show=brows...umber=750-1700 Here is the Stock look.
http://www.cranecams.com/?show=brows...umber=750-1700 Here is the Stock look.
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You can have double the primary output of the XRI with a XR3000, 90 vs 45 millijoules, also 2800 vs 2100 microseconds spark duration 33% longer.
The attachment on distributors, their proud of them, like that statement "instant throttle response", they must have faster electrons somewhere.
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The attachment on distributors, their proud of them, like that statement "instant throttle response", they must have faster electrons somewhere.
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You know you can run down to your local parts store and buy a reman distributor for around 40 bucks. if you wanna go the capacitive discharge route.. you can get a 74 up distributor and a Msd, Mallory, etc etc or you can get a exact replacement and omit the points, slap in a points conversion kit..and ur done..
I know a couple people that have gone the DUI route and have had constant troubles with em. Rember the HEI ignition setup isnt all that great..chevy guys have been changing em for years..
I know a couple people that have gone the DUI route and have had constant troubles with em. Rember the HEI ignition setup isnt all that great..chevy guys have been changing em for years..