Fuel pump wiring problem
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<!-- no sigs except when logged in --> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <!-- / user info --><!-- message, attachments, sig --> <!-- message --> I have an 1985 F250 460 dual tanks carbuerated. If you have 2 batteries as I do, The starter solenoid on the right side has a #20 blue wire going to a fusablelink then changing to pink w/black hash. this is the engine start power to your fuel pump relay and their are 2. One is green and the other is Gray and one gets its power from the other one to run the pumps. I'll get out today and make sure what circuit does what. The fuel pump safety switch is the oil pressure switch mounted just under the oil pressure sending unit. if this goes out do not buy tha aftermarket from Mr.Gasket as the mounting end is to small and you need to buy an adapter. this wire is red w/yellow hash and is the constant power on to the fuel pump circuit. This energizes when the oil pressure reaches 15 PSI. this is why the pink/black energizes on start and when the key springs back the red/yellow energizes to feed the pump system. When you get into an accident (Heaven Forbid) and the engine stops, this circuit stops the pump from pumping fuel all over the place as well as the enertia switch which is the one on the inside firewall in the middle near the passinger side and these wires are yellow and they go from the fuel pump relay to the enertia switch and back and route along the fenders around the top of the radiator support and down the other fender. They wasted alot of wire on that one.
But I'll get out and check on those relay's when it gets warmer. I also have elect schematics that will help if you want these.
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<!-- no sigs except when logged in --> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <!-- / user info --><!-- message, attachments, sig --> <!-- message --> That was your oil pressure sending unit. You should have another one half the size directly below that one with 2 red wires w/yellow hashes on then and that is the fuel pump safety switch.
Last edited by subford; Jun 27, 2006 at 03:04 PM.
Everything else in the diagram is there.
I did some investigation last night. At the starter relay: there are 2 big posts, 1 is for the POS BATT wire. There are also a couple other wires attached to this post including the 20GA blue which turns into the pink w/black hashes going to the pump relay. That did not seem to be the post where that wire SHOULD be connected, the other big post had the ALT wire. There are 2 small posts, one is the starter wire, the other one does not have anything connected to it.
On the drivers side fender there is a box that holds 2 relays. One is the fuel pump relay(pink/black hash, red, brown w/white line and black-ground). The other I am assuming is the Fuel pump cutoff relay. This one has 5 wires coming out of it (yellow,red w/yellow hashes, resistance-comes off the pink/black hash wire, and 2 black wires. 1 of the black wires is not hooked to anything, just had black tape on the end).
I hope that this can shed some light on my problem and me figure out how to fix it.
Thanks,
Eric

You should also have a smaller one screwed into the "T" that the two wires go to (the Red wires with the yellow hash).
Also the other big wire on the other side from the Battery goes to the Starter, not the ALT.
I hope that this can shed some light on my problem and me figure out how to fix it.
I wanted to know if you could take photos of all of these Items and there locations? You could then email them to me for re-posting for others that have problems with this type system.
Last edited by subford; Jun 28, 2006 at 08:37 AM.
On my truck the connector for the starter is a male type that slips right onto the small post on then front side of the relay. This post is for the alternator? The bigger post above that is for the starter?
I will try to take digital pictures and post them.
On my truck the connector for the starter is a male type that slips right onto the small post on then front side of the relay. This post is for the alternator? The bigger post above that is for the starter?
I will try to take digital pictures and post them.
Last edited by subford; Jun 28, 2006 at 09:37 AM.
So the battery and the alternator should be on the same post.
The red w/blue stripe wire on my truck goes to the starter!? That should go to the safety switch and the "S" terminal? is that the neutral safety switch?
The blue 20GA/pink w/black goes on terminal "I" ( or "S").
Boy someone really messed me up, didn't they?
I still don't understand why only my rear tank runs when the NEG BATT cable is hooked up and the front tank DID run at least when I turned the key to RUN. Now I can't shut my rear pump off unless I undo the NEG cable. The rear tank has to be spliced somewhere to a always hot wire.

You should also have a smaller one screwed into the "T" that the two wires go to (the Red wires with the yellow hash).
Do you have a picture of this "T" with both of these devises attached correctly?
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The NC Pos. of the Tank Selector Relay is to the rear Tank so the Rear pump will run whenever the battery is hooked up so they cut the wires to the rear tank.
It should wired like this run the rear tank when the Battery is hooked up. When the key is turned on and you select the front tank the Fuel Tank Selector Switch will put POS (+) voltage on the coil of the Tank Selector Relay and then the rear pump will quit and the front pump will start running.
This is a very unsafe way for this truck to run and could burn up at any time if it has a fuel leak.
For somebody to do this to a truck they were either crazy or there is something else wrong and they did not have the money to fix it or they did not understand it. I would not be surprised to hear that the Tank Selector Valve/Switch is bad.
No I do not have a photo of the Fuel "T".
Last edited by subford; Jun 28, 2006 at 12:11 PM.
It seamed like you were saying that the Fuel Pump Cutoff Relay had two black wires coming out the bottom and one of them was cut and taped.
I deducted form that, that the other wire went to ground. You did not say much about the Black wire from the Tank Selector Relay but what you said in another post is that the front pump would run with the key on. This means somehow that the Tank Selector Relay is grounded.
Yes, all of the black wires should be connected and grounded.
Does this truck run?











