Bed and Rims
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Bed and Rims
I have 2 questions this time.
I have a 49 F-1
The bed is solid sheetmetal, but their is also a wood bed under that.
I thought it was a original wood bed and somebody put a flat piece of sheetmetal in and spot welded it to the front and sides. Somewhere, (I can't remeber where) I found that they came factory with a wood bed and a metal over that.
My question is what kind of wood did they use. If anyone knows.
The rims I have on it are two split rims and two regular rims. I belive it would have had split rims on it from the factroy and if so would like to find two more.
I would appreciate any help with either question.
I have a 49 F-1
The bed is solid sheetmetal, but their is also a wood bed under that.
I thought it was a original wood bed and somebody put a flat piece of sheetmetal in and spot welded it to the front and sides. Somewhere, (I can't remeber where) I found that they came factory with a wood bed and a metal over that.
My question is what kind of wood did they use. If anyone knows.
The rims I have on it are two split rims and two regular rims. I belive it would have had split rims on it from the factroy and if so would like to find two more.
I would appreciate any help with either question.
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I also have a 49 F-1. My bed is the wood/steel sandwich construction that you described. That style was used up until sometime in 1950 to my knowledge. I believe that the original wood was oak and that is what I replaced it with when I restored my bed. I had purchased a new steel bed floor from Mac's trucks years ago and spot welded it into place last winter. I made my own new oak using the original pieces as patterns. I would caution you that getting the bed in flat is not easy. If you are not going stock, I would consider the wood with steel or stainless steel strips like the late 1950 and up beds. The new steel floor panel will not be good and flat as you get it due to the stamped in ribs. I own two spot welder plus I have a TIG setup so I was able to put it in as originally done by Ford. I talked to Mac himself about technique to install which helped but getting it as flat as factory is tough.
On your second question, I am not aware that the original F-1 came with split rims. I believe that it should have 16 inch one piece rims. Others may have more info on the wheels.
On your second question, I am not aware that the original F-1 came with split rims. I believe that it should have 16 inch one piece rims. Others may have more info on the wheels.
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Regarding the split rims.....you may want to check your state motor vechicle dept as I believe some states have outlawed the split rims for safety reasons. I'm not positive on this but seems there was a discussion on here or I read it somewhere else. You might do a search on "split rims" on this forum to see what comes up.
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I'm not trying to be stupid or anything but I already have a pickup that is illegal at home, (not where I'm living now) but going home and my parents having it at home none of us have been bothered.
And split rims aren't bad until you try to take them apart or put them togeter.
I'll in the street tire in the middle of a field putting air in it for the first time in case it does come apart.
Haven't had a problem yet though.
Keep your fingers crossed for me!
lol
And split rims aren't bad until you try to take them apart or put them togeter.
I'll in the street tire in the middle of a field putting air in it for the first time in case it does come apart.
Haven't had a problem yet though.
Keep your fingers crossed for me!
lol
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I'm not trying to be stupid or anything but I already have a pickup that is illegal at home, (not where I'm living now) but going home and my parents having it at home none of us have been bothered.
And split rims aren't bad until you try to take them apart or put them togeter.
I'll be in the street tire in the middle of a field putting air in it for the first time in case it does come apart.
Haven't had a problem yet though.
Keep your fingers crossed for me!
lol
And split rims aren't bad until you try to take them apart or put them togeter.
I'll be in the street tire in the middle of a field putting air in it for the first time in case it does come apart.
Haven't had a problem yet though.
Keep your fingers crossed for me!
lol
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Just a little advise incase someone reads this and tries to do it.
If you take a split rim apart you need to have all the air out. (take the valve core out!, Once you get it apart and put back together, (best in a tire cage put enough air in it to seat the bead,(tire on rim) 40 psi should be good, put the valve core back in then air to what the tire specifies.
Do not try to take the tire apart with the valve core in or put air in if you are anywhere close to the tire, unless you have a tire cage. (I would recommend not standing next to a cage if you have one)
If you air up one of these and the ring is not set right and the rim blows apart when you are putting air in it, it will rip you in half.
I am not trying to say this to scare anyone it is just the honest to god truth.
If you have split rims be very careful
Please!!!
If you take a split rim apart you need to have all the air out. (take the valve core out!, Once you get it apart and put back together, (best in a tire cage put enough air in it to seat the bead,(tire on rim) 40 psi should be good, put the valve core back in then air to what the tire specifies.
Do not try to take the tire apart with the valve core in or put air in if you are anywhere close to the tire, unless you have a tire cage. (I would recommend not standing next to a cage if you have one)
If you air up one of these and the ring is not set right and the rim blows apart when you are putting air in it, it will rip you in half.
I am not trying to say this to scare anyone it is just the honest to god truth.
If you have split rims be very careful
Please!!!
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Had no clue ford did a sandwhich bed... whats the point?? Wood with metal over it?? PO did that in my truck (55) and all it did was rot the wood and make the sheet metal rust from the bottom up..
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I think they had wood and decided to add metal over to hold more weight.
Not completely sure why.
Dosen't make much sense to me either.
Not completely sure why.
Dosen't make much sense to me either.
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Don't know what kind of wood was used in the 48-50 beds, but I doubt it was oak. The wood bed in the '53-'56 beds was old growth Yellow Pine, a good sturdy wood, a lot harder than the yellow pine you buy today.
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From: Harpswell Maine
Originally Posted by jeff5683
Had no clue ford did a sandwhich bed... whats the point?? Wood with metal over it?? PO did that in my truck (55) and all it did was rot the wood and make the sheet metal rust from the bottom up..
(I play around with wooden boats a bit)
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From: Too far north of I-10
Originally Posted by kcb37
If you air up one of these and the ring is not set right and the rim blows apart when you are putting air in it, it will rip you in half.
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From: SE Wisc. (the Rust Belt)
A F-1 shouldn't have split rims. They came stock with 16" one piece rims. The F-3s and up came with "Widow Maker" 2 piece rims and should be replaced with one piece or snap ring type rims.
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Thank you for your imput, I will start looking for three more rims now so I wil have a spare too. If you have ever had to deal with those rims you will hear a lot of horror stories. Not the best design. I have never had a problem once one was togther though.
Thanks again.
Thanks again.