The e-fan, and udp are agood torque inhancer, Bob is the guy I was trying to warn you about, now for all practical puposes, this thread is now dead, It was fun while it lasted. He just can't resist screwing up performance threads with his bs, he hates performance, but can't stay away from it. Good morning Bob,I was wondering where you were at, I was starting to worry ha ha. This is all in fun, Bob is one of my best buddies, and he's smart as a tac, and very helpful (at times) this not being one of them !!!

 

Good morning Wendell!! Just wanted to bring up some points that e-fan manufacturers don't tell you about, so don't waste your money.....To prove
my points, just watch your RPMs with your engine at idle when the e-fans
come on. This reduction in RPMs is from the alternator load....

 

I have an e-fan as do many others, we are very pleased with it, I noticed an improvement right off the bat, the motor reved faster, it pulled stronger, but I did the pully and e-fan at the same time, but it was a difference you can feel. It's not only drag, its weight reduction, less stress on the water pump, it pulls more air, improved mpg, I have found no negitives to doing this. Also e-fans or cheap, around a 100 couple bucks. The gas savings will pay for the fan. You should try one, I think even you would like it. It will draw alittle more from your alt, but not much. It was one of my better mods I did. I never gave it a thought, untill I saw somany post on doing an e-fan, not only ranger sites, but the jeep sites, and mustang as well. So I gave it a try, And I really like it. I have a toggle switch, so if I'm crossing deep water while 4 wheeling, I can turn it off, to keep from splashing water back on the engine, it's great.

 

Wendell.....check this URL "E-Fan Myth" out:

http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/efanmyth.htm

 

Rangers don't have electric fans for good reason.

Electric fans don't normally run all the time, unless wired to be on all the time, like when the AC is on.

SO, if you switch to electric fans, be mindful that things like the engine oil, coolant & power steering & tranny fluids will run hotter in stop & go traffic, when the electric fans are off & there is no or little air flow through the front end, over their coolers.
It's not so much of a problem if your above 30 mph, but still something to consider, if you do lots of stop & go driving in hot weather.

Also if you add electric fans, consider running a larger alternator to handel the extra electical load.

Research what you need to do to improve low end torque, just mindlessly changing things, like intake & exhaust things can seriously negatively detune & affect the torque improvements you want to make.

Also be mindful that tuning a OHC engine, that likes to rev, verses a pushrod engine that likes to grunt, will be diffrent.

Rangers prior to 01 had a pushrod 4.0L, Rangers after 00 had the SHOC 4.0L engine like yours, so you want info that'll work on your SHOC engine.

The three or four things that I can think of, that will make the largest measurable difference, is a nitrous oxide kit, super charger, or turbo charger, special chip set up for torque, gearing, & maybe some intake & exhust changes in tune with what the chip folks think would work best.

Go into this with a good, well thought through balanced overall plan, that matches up parts that will be synergistic when all is said & done, so the money spent will result in positive measurable changes.

Just bolting on various parts, without knowing they'll work together, to yield what you want, will likely yield dissapointment & a sizeable waste of money.

Also be mindeful of how any changes you make, may affect any warranty you might have & how it'll affect engine, accessories & drive train life!!!!

Just some thoughts to ponder.

 

Wendell, I suggest measuring your battery voltage while idling. Do this while the e-fan is running. Alternator output drops off significantly at lower RPMs.
The e-fan will put more loard on your alternator, and the UDP will reduce alternator output. With this combination, you are heading for a dead battery if you idle for a long period with the e-fan running.

 

I have a fan , no problems, now why would I want to read something about my fan, I use the fan, it's been on for a year, those who have them can best tell you what is a myth or not, you need to do less reading, and do more trying. You allways come up with some article to back your bs claims, trying to convince people that use the stuff if it works or not, I have it, it works great, don't need you or an article telling me it dosen't. If it doesn't work, why is there somany people running them, we only run what works, thats why you don't see tb spacers, or tornado's on many vehicles. 4 wheelers arn't stupid, we run products that work, if it doesn't, it's not on our rigs. It cools as well as my focus's e-fan in city or wherever, it's controled by the thermostate. Don't start talking about intake or exhaust upgrades, or you'll really get Bob going, he'll start pulling out abunch more articles, and we'll be here all day, I plan on going wheeling. we've had lots of rain, now it's time for me , and the boy's to play, bye bye !

 

That should tell you my claims aren't BS Wendell! Let's see you do the same with your claims!!!!

 

All your claims are bs, you find some stupid article to back up your stupid hatred for performance. You never try anything for yourself. If I looked through my mags, and forums, I as well could find articles to back me up. But I don't have to, because I have one and know what it does, or doesn't do. Real world application, it's a new concept to you, but you should try it some time, instead of playing with lenses. Your so rediculuos, someone with a stock truck tries and tell people people with mods what works, and what doesn't because you read it somewhere. Your intent here isn't about the e-fan, it's to start an argument to get the post shut down, just like allways. If I do a writeup on my e-fan install, and how well it works, would you use it as prove, of course not, it won't help you make your halfassed claimes to help destroy performance threads. Performace isn't going away, so you might as well, or give up. People will keep asking, we'll keep modding, and you'll keep looking like an a**.

 

Bob, Wendell, what are you guys doing? You have stolen this thread and aren't helping hos out at all. The succuss of any mod is strictly the opinion of the person who is running it. Bob does not like it, so he does not have one; Wendell is thrilled with his. So the two of you need to quit being so selfish and help this guy out.

Hosdv19, here is a list of mods you can do. I am telling you to do any of them (Wendell and Bob), but I am just putting them out there.

K&N Series 77 air intake
Throttle body spacer
high performance spark plugs
electric fan
underdrive pulleys
JBA headers
Cat back exhaust (Gibson, Roush, Flomaster, etc)
Reprogammer (I hear Bama makes really good ones)
Lower temp thermostat
shift improvement kit
Synthetic fluids in engine, tranny, and rearend

And if you have a lot of money: a supercharger
Also if you have deep pockets: www.supersixmotorsports.com

 

Hey Wendell and Bob I see you guys are still at it. I'm not getting involved in this one. I havn't been on this site in months haha its still the same.

 

We just like to keep things exciting, how boring life might be without us. Believe it or not, we are really good friends, we pm each other alot. Dave, I was trying to help the guy out, I sugested all that you have, alot in a pm so Bob wouldn't see ha ha. But even the things I sugest on the thread, I still ended up having to justify to Bob. Just one time I would like to see Bob answer performance question in the positive, but he doesn't answer, he just jumps on us for answering. "O WELL", so as the world turns, and so goes the days of our lives. At anyrate I think this guy has gotten enough good information to get started, or at least think about what would be best for him, and his budget. Hosdy19, jba header won't heat your starter, because they are shorties, they use stock Y-pipe, your friends mustang probably had long tube headers, plus you can get the good coatings.