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Old Aug 19, 2001 | 10:12 PM
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The Engine I am going to swap into my '67 F-100 is currently in a '67 Mustang. The Casting number is #D8VE-6015-A3A. I do not know how to decode it. I do not think it is a original, witch would be a 289, because it has the fittings for the smog and a fitting with like six 1/8"-vacume hose fittings on it witch looks the same as the one on my 84' Fords 351w. So, I think they swaped in a newer motor somewhere in the cars history, and if it is newer I think it might be a 302. If anybody has any info on this, or if you can decode the number, I would deeply apreciate it.

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Old Aug 19, 2001 | 11:23 PM
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289 and 302 rotating assemblies use the same block. In mid year 68 Mustangs changed from 289 to 302, my Mom has an early 68 w/ 289. The bore between both engines is 4" (virgin, not bored over). The stroke of a 302 is 3" the 289 is 2.87". The casting code: D8VE D is for 70's 8 is for 78 V is probably for Lincoln E is for Engine part 6015 is basic code for Engine block and A3A is the particular engineering revision. I don't have numbers that go much past the mid 70's, that particular casting number isn't included in my book. I'm guessing you have an engine that was replaced/rebuilt in it's past and that the block had originally come from say a 78 Lincoln Versailles? This doesn't mean it still might not be a 289, you need to either determine whether you have a full 3" of stroke or get a casting number off the crankshaft. Nothing says that the rebuilder didn't just use a newer block and rehabilitate the 289's crank/rods. I'd bet that your block has been bored at least once in its earlier rebuild. The engines are close, I'd think a 302 is more desirable in a torque, truck application, and a bigger type V8 even more so. If you drop the pan and can find a crank casting number, heres the list I have of crank #s'
289: C2OZ, C3OZ, IM, IMA (4 separate codes I'm showing)
302: C8AZ-A, 2M, 2MA, EOSE-AD

Another consideration is that a 5.0L crank is balanced differently than the earlier 302s significatly so. A 5.0L is still a 302 but after 81 they changed the balance and external weighting alot. Who knows when the motor was rebuilt. I don't know the exact #'s on the balancer, but the Flywheel or Flexplate on a pre 81 302 and all 351's is 28oz offset either cast as a pie shaped thick spot on the flywheel or a weight tack welded to flexplate. The 5.0L weight is 50oz instead of 28.

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Old Aug 20, 2001 | 05:17 PM
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BigBrownTruck,
Thanks for the information, and decoding my nunber. Man, you gotta be the smartest one in here, you answer almost all the questions.

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