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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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E40D tranny ?'s

As I stated in a earlier post I have a shudder that seems to be coming from tranny at highway speeds when I give it gas it shudders and let off it stops.Going on back roads I noticed when it tried to downshift I felt it too.I did notice that if the truck sits for 8 hours or so then driven for about 25 min it will then start to do this,three days in a row I checked this.I just dropped the pan and replaced the filter and it seemed I took out just over 5 quarts.I had only 4 on hand to replace.It almost seems the fluid is overfilled according to the stick.I always did have trouble telling exactly where the level should be with an automatic tranny.Can I check it cold with the engine off and get a good idea of the level??thanks
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:15 PM
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It takes 5 quarts to fill up the E4OD after a filter change. It is very particular about the fluid level.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by okst1
It is very particular about the fluid level.
Ditto that! The procedure for checking level should be shown on the tranny dipstick. Make certain you are on level ground as well. I like to check mine at the filling station where the truck is sitting on a fairly level concrete pad. The level is critical and since a difference of pints will create problems its best to make sure there is very little margin for error.

BTW, checking it cold without the engine running will NOT work. The level in an automatic is almost always checked with the hydraulic pump in the tranny running which requires the engine running.
 

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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 06:55 AM
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Thanks for the info.I will have to go get more on my bike! I was looking again at how much I took out ,minus what went on the floor and it appears close to 6 qts came out of the tranny not 5 qts.I filled up a 5 qt oil jug and then some.What's up with that?Could someone have overfilled this at one time.Previous owner said he had serviced it himself at some point.My owners manual says if it is between the two dots cold it is ok and that is about where I'm at now when I checked it cold.

I started this because of the shudder I started to feel a few days ago after the truck is warmed up and driven for about 25 min.Someone suggested it could be the torque converter going?Should I bother going to get the whole tranny flushed.Fluid was on the dark side and still a dark red tint to it but not burnt like I have seen on other vehicles that had a tranny burn up?Will a good tranny shop be able to determine if it indeed is just the converter going bad and is it wise just to replace it alone.?thanks
 
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 10:11 AM
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No don't flush the tranny, it sounds like a good idea but when you do that all the gunk that breaks loose gets hung up in the fluid passageways and causes all kinds of problems.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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Thanks massy, but what about my ? about fluid amount?I took 6 qts out but greystreak says it takes 5 to top off?thanks
 
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 09:37 PM
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Hey, I had that vibration at highway speeds too, I would be on the gas and it would shake then as soon as i let off the gas it would go away but i was going the same speed.. Turns out i had a busted U-Joint and my rear end was going out.. i replaced the U-Joint but it was to late for my rear end. I litteraly had my locker blow up into pieces and on my diff cover you could see dents coming out of it. It ripped the carrier bearing out of its place still attached and both of my axels slid out while I was driving because the big pin holding those in broke in half.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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I was going to say the same thing about the shudder being the U-joint. He described it almost perfectly. But found out the hard way when someone decided to drop it in low and give it as much gas as the truck would take. Great sound when you hear the drive shaft break the ujoint yoke at the differential and then clanging off the muffler and underside of the truck. If the U-joint doesnt fix the shudder you may have to rebuild the rear end as well.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 06:30 AM
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The problem is not all the time.The last u-joint I had go bad vibrated everytime I would give gas then stop when let off. This problem is not just at highway speed I noticed now and only happens when it wants to shift.thanks
 
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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Definitely do not flush. My buddy and I both had a similar problem. Turned out the same 4 bolts that mount the drive shaft to the transfer case were loose. I give her a look.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 11:04 PM
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There are a few more things than just U-joints to go south back there. The centering ball and spring assembly in the double cardon u-joint at the front of the rear driveshaft can exhibit similar symptoms mentioned as they wear. The pinion nut on the rear differential flange can work loose, the slipshaft can get loose, dry or worn (this usually is accompanied by a clunk or series of clunks when starting from dead stop though).

If you aren't sure whether its the tranny or something "later" in the rear driveline, you can check things. Its a bit extreme but you can drop the rear driveshaft and run the truck in 4HI to see if the symptoms change. Make sure you mark the DS and the flanges that it bolts to so you can be certain it gets installed in the same position as it had been before the removal. If the symptoms go away, the problem is most likely not the transmission.
 

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