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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 09:24 AM
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Idle time?

I use my truck at work alot and spend time just idle for the a/c, 400 ac. of black pavement is hot! How long can I idle? Seems that I read something here about wet idle or something like that.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 09:28 AM
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IMO, let it idle as long as you want. Wet idle (I don't know if that's the correct term, but I know what you're talking aboout) is not a concern. Basically what happens is the cylinders cool off too much and the fuel will no longer fully burn what's in the cylinder, making the inside of it "wet" from fuel. In the heat you're in, it's not going to happen. And, since our cooling system on these trucks does an incredible job from the factory, the truck shouldn't have a problem with overheating. I know building contractors here that never shut their trucks off during the day, and they can be parked for well over an hour at a time.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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Wet Stacking! If you search there's a lot of old info about that. Basically engine cools enough to the point that even at idle it doesn't burn all the fuel, leaving deposits. Over time these deposits build up and can be bad for you.

If you need to idle for a while, get an auxilary idle controller, or a chip with a high idle feature.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Pocket
Wet Stacking! If you search there's a lot of old info about that. Basically engine cools enough to the point that even at idle it doesn't burn all the fuel, leaving deposits. Over time these deposits build up and can be bad for you.

If you need to idle for a while, get an auxilary idle controller, or a chip with a high idle feature.
Wet Stacking, that it. I do have a 203* therm but plan to run WVO and as jt said, as long as it is in the high 80's to 90's here I do not thing I will worry too much. Thanks.
Oops, I did not see your last statement about the high idle, good idea.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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I figured someone would know the correct term, I just couldn't come up with it.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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I've noticed with my truck that at below 30 degrees f. that my idle creeps up all by itself and will not come back down unless I tap the brake. Is this just my truck doing this, or do all of them do it? I do let mine idle for hours in the winter time because I am sort of an overseer on construction projects and at my old age I am not getting my a$$ out in that weather for very long at one time.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Markadeck
I've noticed with my truck that at below 30 degrees f. that my idle creeps up all by itself and will not come back down unless I tap the brake. Is this just my truck doing this, or do all of them do it? I do let mine idle for hours in the winter time because I am sort of an overseer on construction projects and at my old age I am not getting my a$$ out in that weather for very long at one time.
That is correct, all the trucks do this if certain parameters are met. Usually it is pretty cold out when they start doing this.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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If you have a manual tranny the high idle increase is really common, seems to be a feature of the pcm to prevent wet stacking.

requirements: parking brake on, cold outside, long idle times.

Also the pcm monitors battery voltage and ups the idle if it isn't high enough.

Gawd I hate it when the truck is smarter than me.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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Also, on the auto trans equipped trucks, the parking brake does not have to be set, just trans in park.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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If you need to idle for a while, get an auxilary idle controller, or a chip with a high idle feature.
First I agree with "let it idle". However, I would recommend the AIC. I have the APCM and that does awesome for me. Summer and winter function both. :-)
 
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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I would recommend the AIC. I have the APCM and that does awesome for me. Summer and winter function both. :-)
Can you give a little more info on the APCM you have. Cost, ease of install, etc... I've got a high idle setting on my chip, but I'm thinking about some other ideas for that spot on the chip.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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What is an APCM?
 
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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I routinely let mine idle for as long as 6 hours during the summer. It gets over 100° F and I work on hot equipment, I need a place to cool off every half an hour or so.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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You will not wet stack an electronicly controlled diesel engine. Navistar idle test these engines for 36-48hrs without any problems with decent fuel. Raising the idle helps in the cold weather to maintain engine operating temps, you don't need to worry about that in the summer months. Even if you had to worry about wet stacking, which you don't because you are electronically controlled for a precise fuel metering, raising the idle will not solve the issue/prevent it, as your EGTS are still not hot enough to burn the deposits off.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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you do not need to worry about wet stacking. it only occurs in really cold climates, like up north where they are in the oil fields and they run their trucks to power a PTO generator or just to keep warm inside. in temperatures where the engine meets full operating temperature it will not "wet-stack". usually a sticking valve is a result of wetstacking. then the piston helps it close and that's not good.
 
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