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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 10:17 PM
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Check Engine Light on What now?

I just noticed the Check engine light is on solid. It stays on even after shutdown and restart.
Looks like a Monday trip to the dealer.

Is the check engine light associated with emissions system? Is it OK to drive with it on? Everything looks fine and it runs the same, No visible proplems.

It ticks me off because I just had in the dealership on Thursday for the Ford rep to check out my lack of power problem. He agreed with the mechanic that it is normal, no problem.

Well I hope what ever is causing the lack of power problem has finally crapped out. It must be throwing a code now.

Then I can throw it back in their faces.

We shall see.....
 
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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Take it to Autozone or someone that can read the code for you BEFORE you take it to the dealership and they clear it. Tell Autozone NOT to clear the code. As I understand it, if it isn't flashing, it isn't critical and it's OK to drive for a while. That's the way the Mustangs are at least and I think that's consistant throughout Ford stuff. CEL can be emissions or a multitude of other things.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by donjamer
I just noticed the Check engine light is on solid. It stays on even after shutdown and restart.
Looks like a Monday trip to the dealer.

Is the check engine light associated with emissions system? Is it OK to drive with it on? Everything looks fine and it runs the same, No visible proplems.

It ticks me off because I just had in the dealership on Thursday for the Ford rep to check out my lack of power problem. He agreed with the mechanic that it is normal, no problem.

Well I hope what ever is causing the lack of power problem has finally crapped out. It must be throwing a code now.

Then I can throw it back in their faces.

We shall see.....
I would go back to the dealer.... you were just there last week you said.

You had a concern or complaint and they said all was well... but now you have a CEL.... so I guess all is NOT well.

Forget going to Autozone and go back to your dealer for help (under warrenty). May now, they will download a code, fix what is wrong... and maybe fix your "lack of power" concern?

Good luck and let us know what happens.

Jeff
 
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 11:58 PM
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I'd swing by autozone and have them tell you what the code is...can't hurt and autozone is open on Sunday so you'll know right away and be able to quit wondering what it is before your appointment at the dealer. I wouldn't tell the dealership I knew what the code is though, I'd wait and see what they tell you....be interesting to see if the dealer says something different.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:09 AM
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With the check engine. If it gets worse it could go into the safe mode and leave you at an idle sitting alongside the road going 10mph. Happened to us.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 09:24 AM
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With the check engine. If it gets worse it could go into the safe mode and leave you at an idle sitting alongside the road going 10mph. Happened to us.
I hope that doesn't happen I will be real pissed. Especially after just having them say nothing is wrong.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by rblomquist
I'd swing by autozone and have them tell you what the code is...can't hurt and autozone is open on Sunday so you'll know right away and be able to quit wondering what it is before your appointment at the dealer. I wouldn't tell the dealership I knew what the code is though, I'd wait and see what they tell you....be interesting to see if the dealer says something different.
That's a good suggestion. I will do that.

The think that gets me mad is I just order the scanguage (www.scanguage.com)

and have to wait for it to arrive.

Isn't that always the way? Once I get the scan guage I will probably never see another code. I wish.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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Donjamer,
My engine light came on, the owners manual says you can drive with no quick accelerations or deaccelerations. I had a lack of power and the dealer found the vanes in the turbo were not functioning correctly. They just replaced the turbo on friday and I hope to get it back next week. After they repair the dents they put in the truck bed.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by donjamer
The think that gets me mad is I just order the scanguage (www.scanguage.com)

and have to wait for it to arrive.
If you can, I would suggest getting an SCT XCal2. With that you can get some tunes to help your mileage and performance, read and reset DTCs, and even datalog to help diagnose things. Sort of the swiss army knife of the tuning world.
 

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Originally Posted by Toddski1
Donjamer,
My engine light came on, the owners manual says you can drive with no quick accelerations or deaccelerations. I had a lack of power and the dealer found the vanes in the turbo were not functioning correctly. They just replaced the turbo on friday and I hope to get it back next week. After they repair the dents they put in the truck bed.

how do the vanes in the turbo work? i hear about all these problems with them sticking and giving too much boost. and the low power sounds like they get stuck on the under boost side too. i was thinking to myself is this "sticking" due to gum up of the vanes that are suppose to move freely and can you spray something in there to free them up? or does it not work like that?
 
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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My check engine light came on a couple months ago and drove it for about 3 weeks before I could get it in to the dealer. They told me the computer needed to reprogrammed. Don't know what that met but I haven't had any problems. It has now just come on again and I am going in this week looking for a better answer.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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Light went out

Well I started the truck this morning and NO check engine light. WTF!

I guess my truck is just getting tired of all the rain.

I went to Autozone as recommended and the guy said if the light isnt on then no code is stored and they would not be able to read it.. Is that correct?
I always thought that the codes would be stored until reset by a tech.

I knew I should have bought the scanguage last month...
 
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullitt5094
If you can, I would suggest getting an SCT XCal2. With that you can get some tunes to help your mileage and performance, read and reset DTCs, and even datalog to help diagnose things. Sort of the swiss army knife of the tuning world.
I am trying to stay away from tuners. I do not want to give Ford any reason to void the warranty. That is why I am totally stock.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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I totally understand why you wouldn't want to risk it. I've been personally assured by Jerry Wroblewski, one of the SCT founders, that with the Xcal when you flash it back to stock, there is no way Ford can tell it was ever changed. I also know many people that have had warrant work done on all types of Ford cars/trucks and have never heard of a denial of warranty with the Xcal products. If you don't feel warm and fuzzy about it, certainly don't do it. I can tell you Jerry and Co. probably know more about the Ford EEC than Ford does. Before the SCT software was developed, Jerry use to flash Mustang EECs with binary inputs to the registers. He can look at binary string and know what the number is or know what number he wants to change a register to and type in the binary. It's really impressive.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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Unhappy

Well Brought the truck in today for the check engine light. Thought maybe I would finally get the answer to the Low Power also. No such luck....

The only code they found was P2617 which refers to a cam sensor While cranking problem. They did a test on it and did not find any problems. They say if it happens again then they will probably replace it. Also said it is a minor code which is more of a glitch. Usually resets itself after a while.

Now I guess it is back to the drawing board. I will talk to another service department to see if they have fixed any of these.

It amazes me that we spend all this money on a vehicle and the service departments can't fix them. They just give the standard line "Thats how they are suppose to work, no problem"......

I guess I am going to have to dust of the old wrenches and fix it myself.
 
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