Going through my mail I see the May copy of RV View, the Camping World mag has a two page add promoting the 362 HP V10 and the statement they end with is ," no matter how much you weigh this chassis down, once it hits the open road, it won't be the RV being passed"

This is truth in advertising and it shows that Ford is interested in keeping it's market share in the RV chassis business and the fabulous V10 engine is the reason Ford has so many Class C Motorhomes out there.

Let's hope Ford sticks with a winner and keeps making the best engine they have ever designed...........our V10.

 

I truly suspect that Ford is not dropping the V10, at least in the heavy-duty trucks.

The F250 and low-payload F350 may get the V10 dropped in favor of the 6.2 - as a marketing ploy.

I wonder if you can order an F250 with an "engine delete" option? (j/k)

 

LMAO- that would be an interesting option pkg (engine delete). Wonder if you could drop in one of THESE?

 

dosn't ford own jag? and jag have a v12 ? a dohc multi valve v12 in a super duty wonder-wonder?

 

Didn't Jag stop producing the V12 for the new V8?

XK8, XJ8, XKR, etc?

 

Yesterday, I was at an RV dealership and saw some good size Class A Tripple E motorhomes. I am a Fiver guy but these big Class A s caught my eye because they had the same thing on the fender I do..........The V10 symbol and then I realized that this
F-53 chassis is a SD frame with the 3 valve towing monster and I guess some Class C s will have the E series 2 valve...........still a great engine but not the tow brute that the 3 valve is.

 

Newbie, here, might be a repeat quesion but on a 2000 F53 (Georgie Boy Pursuit) Motorhome 2 valve are the heads the only difference? Or is it a different assembly in other ways too?
That later engine show a lot higher torque in the charts.

 

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Repeat questions are fine especially this one

usually it is asked in relation to someone wanting to try and update from 295HP 2v V10 version to the 310 HP 2v V10 or all the way to 362HP 3v V10 version

I have owned all three motors in pickups and I think making a 99/295hp V10 into a 01-04 310 version might not be too hard the amount of gain is not really worth the grief

The change to 362 HP 3v V10 was pretty extensive as Ford engineers made some large scale changes

Entire intake and exhaust system from the air box and filter all the way to the tail pipe is redesigned

The Throttle body is electromechanical controlled by a stepper motor and there is no physical connection to the throttle pedal in the cabin. A fly by wire system and the success of it, has electronic steering and braking systems coming to us one of these years

A by product of fully electronic throttle is the ultra smooth Cruise Control. A big plus in my opinion

Of course you know the heads are three valve design with one exhaust and two intake
The valve timing is fixed (the 5.4L V8 motor got variable valve timing)

Another big change was the intake manifold. It is a Variable Volume Plenum design with a computer controlled giant vane (butterfly valve) that opens and closes to change the flow and volume dynamics to give better throttle response and keep LOW RPM torque as high as possible in a gasoline motor

The exhaust system got a better flowing set of manifolds at dump into a exceptionally well designed stainless exhaust piping system. Right after the manifold on each side is a welded in catalytic converter that has O2 sensor before and after the cat and the next section of piping route over to the pass side into a beautiful two into one collector then back a LONG straight shot to a massive muffler before rising over the axle and out the pass side (this entire system from the headers back should fit all 99 and up SuperDuty trucks real easy)

Now for the bad news

There are extensive electrical changes that make just swapping in a entire 3vV10 power train near impossible

on all the 99 to present the computers control a LOT of systems and they all talk to each other

The speed sensor always goes to the Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS) first then on to the Power Control Module (PCM)
The 05 3v V10s have a new communications method called CAN (common access network) that is not backward compatible.

They added a injector control module (ICM) and the new portions of the PCM to control the throttle and intake vane
The whole dash cluster is computer controlled and there are a lot of tie in subsystems like the Integrated Electronic Trailer brakes, stereo, and Elevated Stationary Idle control, some more control and logic for battery charge or PTO operation

Doing all this moved around some major wiring harnesses and relocated the PCM from below the Brake master cylinder(99-04) to up under the hood wiper cowl near the top of the firewall on the pass side inside the motor bay(05-07).

Long winded way to say that in my professional opinion I think converting a 99-04 Ford vehicle to 3v V10 running gear would be way too expensive and very labor intensive. Better to just get the entire new design as an integrated package in a trade or purchase of the now refined and exceedingly reliable new truck.

 

Sounds like the 2000 V10 in my family is staying OE, there is something to be said for staying the course.

 

Jag stopped producing the V12 a while ago... When they went to the current style V8 in 1998.
However, Aston Martin have a V12 (which is entirely different to the old Jag engine - its actually 2 Duratec 3.0l V6's bolted together...)
And it is one of the best sounding engines.

Imagine having a truck that sounded like THIS:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=Aston+Martin