View Poll Results: Under age smoking. What is your opinion
Im under age and do it
2
2.82%
Im under age and against it
7
9.86%
Adult: against
36
50.70%
Adult: its there lives.
26
36.62%
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Under age smoking (poll)
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Regarding the "what's next, driving, being fat.." etc. OK, smokeless tobacco would be next, illegal drugs, then maybe alcohol. Driving, in and of itself, does no harm. Being fat probably is safer than smoking, and sometimes it's willful and sometimes it isn't.
The fact is you have to be just about as dumb as a post to START smoking in this day and age. There is no question it's bad. There is no "pro smoking" side.
It is WILLFUL MISCONDUCT, and as such, should (IMO) lead to forfeiture of benefits.
I understand the reluctance to apply such harsh remedies, and the "live/let live" sentiments. But (imo) sometimes you just have to hammer down on things, and smoking is a good place to start. We make excuses for everything these days, and many are always seeking to let people off the hook for everything from child abuse (which smoking in the same house/car with kids is) to murder.
Like I said, smoke on, numbskulls. Just don't come to me with your hand out when you need a bypass or lung transplant, and don't get in line ahead of me at the doctor.
The fact is you have to be just about as dumb as a post to START smoking in this day and age. There is no question it's bad. There is no "pro smoking" side.
It is WILLFUL MISCONDUCT, and as such, should (IMO) lead to forfeiture of benefits.
I understand the reluctance to apply such harsh remedies, and the "live/let live" sentiments. But (imo) sometimes you just have to hammer down on things, and smoking is a good place to start. We make excuses for everything these days, and many are always seeking to let people off the hook for everything from child abuse (which smoking in the same house/car with kids is) to murder.
Like I said, smoke on, numbskulls. Just don't come to me with your hand out when you need a bypass or lung transplant, and don't get in line ahead of me at the doctor.
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From: peggs, oklahoma
Originally Posted by bigdaddyII
I am a (legal) smoker who started very young. I dont give a rats houdini at what age kids start smoking at, as long as its not my kids.
By the way:
That interesting cause only a week or two ago you absolutely hated smoke as stated in your previous thread:
Not trying to bust your chops but maybe you should try to remember what you posted before and keep your story consistant
By the way:
That interesting cause only a week or two ago you absolutely hated smoke as stated in your previous thread:
Not trying to bust your chops but maybe you should try to remember what you posted before and keep your story consistant
I still get a nicotine high. Its a legal high.
Oh yea...bigd2 I believe i was still banned 2 weeks ago. Let me go back and check.
Last edited by A_G; Jun 3, 2006 at 12:07 PM.
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The post he was referring to was on 05/23/06 about you getting suspended from school for having a pocket knife in your truck toolbox and a whole bunch of other stuff and you said you hated smoking etc etc etc......
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Dang- I wish I had something intelligent to add to this. I smoke- it's a terrible habit, and a tough one to break. I recently found out my son smokes occasionally, which was a bit of a shock (no, he's not underage). I suspect I know why too (that blond under his arm might have something to do with it 
grrls aren't fond of dip).
Hmmmm......
grrls aren't fond of dip). Hmmmm......
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From: Kiefer, Northeastern Okla
Yes, I smoke. I tried quitting, but I gained 40 pounds which was hard on my knees. Got one knee replaced, lost 20 pounds, and now I only smoke half as much. Gotta get the other knee fixed so I can quit smoking. 
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I quit smoking for 10 years. I had a extreamly bad evenful week 4 years ago and started back up. I am working on stopping again. It's a choice either smoking or gas in the Fords. I choose our Fords.
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Originally Posted by A_G
I used to dip. Ive been dipping since a very young age. Since the first time i got caught smoking. Its much easier to smoke then dip. (i have braces) So i just started smoking.
I still get a nicotine high. Its a legal high.
Oh yea...bigd2 I believe i was still banned 2 weeks ago. Let me go back and check.
I still get a nicotine high. Its a legal high.
Oh yea...bigd2 I believe i was still banned 2 weeks ago. Let me go back and check.
{bigdaddyII steps off of his soapbox in preparation to go to bed after a severe bout of sleep deprivation}
Last edited by bigdaddyII; Jun 4, 2006 at 04:57 AM.
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I have to agree with bigdaddyII on this. Now I don't smoke and I can't stand to be at my parents house when they smoke, but till the day I die I'll defend their right to smoke. That's why we have these things called freedoms and why we have personal accountability. Everybody is so ready to look past the point that even though smoking is bad for you and it wrecks your health, despite the anti-smoking commercials and testimonials from cancer patients, people will still choose to smoke because they want to, whether you like it or not. And who appointed non-smokers the guardian angels and protectors of smokers? Why does everyone think that they know whats good for everyone else? I don't even try to pretend to know what's good for anyone but myself, and I don't preach to anyone to do what I do because it works for me, and I won't stand for anyone telling me how to live my life.
By the way, when was the last time you've seen as much effort put into the war on illegal drugs as compared to legal cigarettes? There's much bigger problems in the world than smoking. Just my $.02
By the way, when was the last time you've seen as much effort put into the war on illegal drugs as compared to legal cigarettes? There's much bigger problems in the world than smoking. Just my $.02
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From: SW VA
Originally Posted by Greg 79 f150
I dont think about teens smoking, but I DO wonder WHY they started smoking. With all the no smoking bans, health care ads, it is not like young people today do not know cigarettes are a harmful substance that is SO addictive . The question I would like to see answered is why do they start smoking ?
I started smoking when I was 14 (now 19). I'd like to see the smoking age done away with. Educate the kids, and let them decide. After all...it is a "free country." I dont need some dumb*** sitting in congress to tell me what is best for me!
