07' vs. 08' questions
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07' vs. 08' questions
I understand the 07' are now available for order. Does anyone know if the 07' has the new body and interior upgrades? From what I have seen it looks like the new 6.4 won't come until early next year as an 08'. I am thinking about ordering the 07' with the 6.0L and wondered if it looked the same as the 05/06'.
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Tough decision. Buy the classic body style now with the diesel that has questionable reputation or wait for the the 6.4 diesel that will cost more and likely be more dependable, mated with what most observers have conservatively termed "fugly" body styling. Both ways you win and both ways you lose. Confronted with that choice......maybe its a good time to go fishing.
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general statements, bash bash bash, more general statements nothing based on facts bash bash bash the 6.0
Who says the 6.4 in it's first year will likely be more dependable? or cost more? for sure it will be more complex
Who says the 6.0 has a questionable reputation? what, based on a forum? people love to complain, very few say they love it - if you want to believe the 06 6.0 is of "questionable reputation" so be it, but I wouldn't state it as fact - and thats just my opinion, I respect yours
Fact is they finally have the thing debugged with a few exceptions and now emissions mean a new engine - I have an 05 6.0 and a buddy has an 06 - best Superdutys we have ever owned and I've ownbed a bunch.
If you want to riskj buying a first year design, do it - but my money is on the current model - your mileage may vary and remember to always wear your safety belt :-)
Who says the 6.4 in it's first year will likely be more dependable? or cost more? for sure it will be more complex
Who says the 6.0 has a questionable reputation? what, based on a forum? people love to complain, very few say they love it - if you want to believe the 06 6.0 is of "questionable reputation" so be it, but I wouldn't state it as fact - and thats just my opinion, I respect yours
Fact is they finally have the thing debugged with a few exceptions and now emissions mean a new engine - I have an 05 6.0 and a buddy has an 06 - best Superdutys we have ever owned and I've ownbed a bunch.
If you want to riskj buying a first year design, do it - but my money is on the current model - your mileage may vary and remember to always wear your safety belt :-)
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Originally Posted by vze2372e
general statements, bash bash bash, more general statements nothing based on facts bash bash bash the 6.0
Who says the 6.4 in it's first year will likely be more dependable? or cost more? for sure it will be more complex
Who says the 6.0 has a questionable reputation? what, based on a forum? people love to complain, very few say they love it - if you want to believe the 06 6.0 is of "questionable reputation" so be it, but I wouldn't state it as fact - and thats just my opinion, I respect yours
Fact is they finally have the thing debugged with a few exceptions and now emissions mean a new engine - I have an 05 6.0 and a buddy has an 06 - best Superdutys we have ever owned and I've ownbed a bunch.
If you want to riskj buying a first year design, do it - but my money is on the current model - your mileage may vary and remember to always wear your safety belt :-)
Who says the 6.4 in it's first year will likely be more dependable? or cost more? for sure it will be more complex
Who says the 6.0 has a questionable reputation? what, based on a forum? people love to complain, very few say they love it - if you want to believe the 06 6.0 is of "questionable reputation" so be it, but I wouldn't state it as fact - and thats just my opinion, I respect yours
Fact is they finally have the thing debugged with a few exceptions and now emissions mean a new engine - I have an 05 6.0 and a buddy has an 06 - best Superdutys we have ever owned and I've ownbed a bunch.
If you want to riskj buying a first year design, do it - but my money is on the current model - your mileage may vary and remember to always wear your safety belt :-)
I didn't mean to offend you or anyone else and my comments were not even based on anything that is "mine". I just used other's experiences as a basis.
Fishing is a good thing to do when you just want to think without anyone putting any pressure on you. Sometimes jogging works well too.
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personally i think the 6.0L is alright. i have exhaust and intake and it makes more power than my 02 7.3 did with exhaust, intake, and chip on tow mode. i have heard lots of horror stories with the 6.0. but in its defence, once the truth comes out of people you usually find out they are heavily modded and beaten. you dont hear that many complaints from people who leave them stock. im sure the new 6.4 will be that much better
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Originally Posted by vze2372e
general statements, bash bash bash, more general statements nothing based on facts bash bash bash the 6.0
Who says the 6.4 in it's first year will likely be more dependable? or cost more? for sure it will be more complex
Who says the 6.0 has a questionable reputation? what, based on a forum? people love to complain, very few say they love it - if you want to believe the 06 6.0 is of "questionable reputation" so be it, but I wouldn't state it as fact - and thats just my opinion, I respect yours
Fact is they finally have the thing debugged with a few exceptions and now emissions mean a new engine - I have an 05 6.0 and a buddy has an 06 - best Superdutys we have ever owned and I've ownbed a bunch.
If you want to riskj buying a first year design, do it - but my money is on the current model - your mileage may vary and remember to always wear your safety belt :-)
Who says the 6.4 in it's first year will likely be more dependable? or cost more? for sure it will be more complex
Who says the 6.0 has a questionable reputation? what, based on a forum? people love to complain, very few say they love it - if you want to believe the 06 6.0 is of "questionable reputation" so be it, but I wouldn't state it as fact - and thats just my opinion, I respect yours
Fact is they finally have the thing debugged with a few exceptions and now emissions mean a new engine - I have an 05 6.0 and a buddy has an 06 - best Superdutys we have ever owned and I've ownbed a bunch.
If you want to riskj buying a first year design, do it - but my money is on the current model - your mileage may vary and remember to always wear your safety belt :-)
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Ok here is some "bashing" and I still love my truck. We have four
'03 F-250 Crew Cab Short Bed, Chipped, Exhaust, Intake, Guages.
Blew out rearend at 43,000 miles did not get any mods until 40,000 miles. From around 50,000-80,000 miles the truck would not run when cold and nobody could figure out why, finally got it to a good service department. They said right away "oh it is the injectors" 3 days later all is well, they also did the head gaskets at the same time as a precaution. Has been re-flashed 4 times, 2 of those prevoius to having any mods.
'04 F-350 dual-wheel standard cab 12ft flatbed, welder, torches, tools, shovels, etc, etc.
NO MODS EVER
88,000 miles on it now, and it is on it 3rd set of head gaskets, 2nd set of heads, 3rd turbo, some injectors, and still does not run correctly when the engine is cold.
'06 F-350 Dual-Wheel Crew Cab 8ft flatbed, welder, torches, tools.
NO MODS EVER
8,000 needs new ring and pinion, WHY??, because nobody put any lube in it at the factory.
12,000 miles blow intercooler pipe in driveway
'06 F-350 Dual-Wheel Crew Cab 9ft flatbed, welder, torches, tools, shovels, pumps boxes loaded.
5,000 miles blow intercooler piping on way home from a job site.
'03 F-250 Crew Cab Short Bed, Chipped, Exhaust, Intake, Guages.
Blew out rearend at 43,000 miles did not get any mods until 40,000 miles. From around 50,000-80,000 miles the truck would not run when cold and nobody could figure out why, finally got it to a good service department. They said right away "oh it is the injectors" 3 days later all is well, they also did the head gaskets at the same time as a precaution. Has been re-flashed 4 times, 2 of those prevoius to having any mods.
'04 F-350 dual-wheel standard cab 12ft flatbed, welder, torches, tools, shovels, etc, etc.
NO MODS EVER
88,000 miles on it now, and it is on it 3rd set of head gaskets, 2nd set of heads, 3rd turbo, some injectors, and still does not run correctly when the engine is cold.
'06 F-350 Dual-Wheel Crew Cab 8ft flatbed, welder, torches, tools.
NO MODS EVER
8,000 needs new ring and pinion, WHY??, because nobody put any lube in it at the factory.
12,000 miles blow intercooler pipe in driveway
'06 F-350 Dual-Wheel Crew Cab 9ft flatbed, welder, torches, tools, shovels, pumps boxes loaded.
5,000 miles blow intercooler piping on way home from a job site.
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Originally Posted by Brian460
Ok here is some "bashing" and I still love my truck. We have four
'03 F-250 Crew Cab Short Bed, Chipped, Exhaust, Intake, Guages.
Blew out rearend at 43,000 miles did not get any mods until 40,000 miles. From around 50,000-80,000 miles the truck would not run when cold and nobody could figure out why, finally got it to a good service department. They said right away "oh it is the injectors" 3 days later all is well, they also did the head gaskets at the same time as a precaution. Has been re-flashed 4 times, 2 of those prevoius to having any mods.
'04 F-350 dual-wheel standard cab 12ft flatbed, welder, torches, tools, shovels, etc, etc.
NO MODS EVER
88,000 miles on it now, and it is on it 3rd set of head gaskets, 2nd set of heads, 3rd turbo, some injectors, and still does not run correctly when the engine is cold.
'06 F-350 Dual-Wheel Crew Cab 8ft flatbed, welder, torches, tools.
NO MODS EVER
8,000 needs new ring and pinion, WHY??, because nobody put any lube in it at the factory.
12,000 miles blow intercooler pipe in driveway
'06 F-350 Dual-Wheel Crew Cab 9ft flatbed, welder, torches, tools, shovels, pumps boxes loaded.
5,000 miles blow intercooler piping on way home from a job site.
'03 F-250 Crew Cab Short Bed, Chipped, Exhaust, Intake, Guages.
Blew out rearend at 43,000 miles did not get any mods until 40,000 miles. From around 50,000-80,000 miles the truck would not run when cold and nobody could figure out why, finally got it to a good service department. They said right away "oh it is the injectors" 3 days later all is well, they also did the head gaskets at the same time as a precaution. Has been re-flashed 4 times, 2 of those prevoius to having any mods.
'04 F-350 dual-wheel standard cab 12ft flatbed, welder, torches, tools, shovels, etc, etc.
NO MODS EVER
88,000 miles on it now, and it is on it 3rd set of head gaskets, 2nd set of heads, 3rd turbo, some injectors, and still does not run correctly when the engine is cold.
'06 F-350 Dual-Wheel Crew Cab 8ft flatbed, welder, torches, tools.
NO MODS EVER
8,000 needs new ring and pinion, WHY??, because nobody put any lube in it at the factory.
12,000 miles blow intercooler pipe in driveway
'06 F-350 Dual-Wheel Crew Cab 9ft flatbed, welder, torches, tools, shovels, pumps boxes loaded.
5,000 miles blow intercooler piping on way home from a job site.
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04- 6.0 spent so much time in the shop they purchased it back . i replaced the ford with a dodge cumapart well guess what? 1 went lemon "never played with brakes, auto tranies.head gaskets, electrical up the gazons" dodge replaced that one with another and got another lemon tranie one traded that one in for and back to ford and a gaser for now till all the truth about the new truck and motor are fact in writting.
what i'm trying to say is you can get a great one or a bad one. chances of bad one are really slim. esp. with a ford. grab a 07 guy and don't look back . and don't worry so much about what you read and hear.
what i'm trying to say is you can get a great one or a bad one. chances of bad one are really slim. esp. with a ford. grab a 07 guy and don't look back . and don't worry so much about what you read and hear.