Love the bash wars...The people I know who have diesels, Ford, GM product, and Dodge, like them a lot. If there are any complaints, it is the cost of maintenance (oil changes, filters, etc.). They use them to pull 5th wheel trailers and are not the type to go under the hood to do much more than check oil and maybe change the air filter. I do see a lot of people complaining about them on the forums, but it seems that people who are having trouble with the diesels are those who have modified them in some way (chips, etc.). Have you heard of people having problems with stock engines?

 

Calm down guys, although it looks like this self-moderated itself already

 

yes both gas and diesel esp. from dodge since dcx took them over and they became half breeds .
brass tacks all my trucks other then my current have been dead stock same with my wifes liberty. the liberty has had the heads off for blown leaking gaskets at 50k. and just 2 weeks ago blew it's trans the second time for the same problem cheap factory building that a 30 dollar after market part fixes on the the valve body by adding 4 more screws to the solinode retainer plate so the valve pressure dosn't bend it out .
both my cummins motors blew head gaskets and the tranies failed left and right. for the same problem with a rear shaft bearing plate going into the case not getting enough oil .same thing with my bothers dodge dakota 3.9 v6 blew head gaskets and cracked the heads. plus a tranie and warped brakes. my 6.0 that was one of the real early ones full of factory glitches in the head gaskets and oil sealing plus the wire harrness like most of us know about. the newer ones i have personally heard very little bad about the 6.0 esp. since the recalls took care of a lot of the problems.
now lets put the blame where it belongs at ford for the lack of proper dealer tech training before it was released to us the every day driver. if the dealer techs don't know things work on and have to figure things out on the own . then there is a sore owner because his or her ride is laid up and almost unrepairable.
what is going on and has been is ford is way up front training techs about both the truck and motor coming out some thing that should have been done with the 6.0. if they had so many people would not likly be so sore about it all.

 

It always cracks me up when I read posts about how a person has had repeated problems with any brand or a particular dealership and yet they have bought the from the same dealership again and again. Or after the the dad, 3 uncles,6 brothers and 17 friends all had a bad experience with a model XPY that somehow the poster has a problem with model XPY. And this isn't the first time mind you, but they have had problems with that model themselves before.Why did they buy in the first place. There are problems with all models, but with a little research, you can find what most people are satisfied with and make your decision from there and live with that decision.

 

Oh I forgot to add that the '03 needed ball joints at 38,000.

My main point hear is that we have four of them 1 has been modded the other 3 have not been touched, but still have just as many problems if not more as the modified one.

 

I think some of you guys should work for Ford and test these trucks. You seem to have the worst luck with them and if they could fix your probs everyone would buy Fords because all would be good then. I personally have only hade "1" bad truck. It came with a bad camshaft in a 351 gasser. At 3000 miles it broke the cam. Then new engine came complete from intake to pan. It even had oil in it when it came. One week later I was back in my truck and never had another problem. I will stick with them myself.

 

Where are all of the V-10"s??? I have been looking for a new F-250 4X4 Crew Cab Lariat with the V-10 and here all anyone has is diesels. I live in Georgia. Not a green state, I think.

 

man do i hear you. my 2nd dodge was replacement given me after i started the lemon law suit. they added 4 options to sweeten it up. all i got was the same thing again. very same problems.
my wife she went out on her own and traded in a good running exploder for the jeep only because she is 4 ft 11'' and the truck was "to big for me" and not her 1989 b2 . funny how dcx can't seem to fix the same problems with that trans or have heads gaskets on gas motors that don't leak antifreeze into the oil at some point. brakes wraping .i think we all know all to well about that. and know how to cure the problem harden them better to start with.
but dcx they will never see our faces in the show room again. ford i'm waiting to see how the 6.4 runs for a few years then update my ride to one

 

the only way to get one is to order one . 07 can be right now. same as a 06 just some of the last year of production trim added

 

edHave a dealer you like go online to find one and do a swap. They are out there. They're rare but if you can live with different colors, options, etc, you can get one from dealer stock. I saw a couple when I was looking for my 2006 PSD. I think the dealer that I bought mine from has one or two but I am in CT. They can get one from a surrounding state if necessary if they want to make the sale and keep you happy.

 

The question is why do they make so few of them? The PSD seems to outnumber the V-10 10 to 1. I know many people like the PSD but apparently the V-10 has a loyal following as well. Could it be that the PSD and related transmission adds about $10,000 to the price of the truck? Hate to be cynical.

 

the PSD and the V-10 have the same automatic now

 

No, its about a $5,000 price difference to go deisel with the current 6.0 motor. The v10 doesn't have as much torque so a lot of guys that pull HEAVY trailers or carry heavy loads like them. The PSD has a lot more maintenance costs associated with it than the V10 but it gets better mileage. I personnally don't think you will go wrong either way. I went PSD but considered and would buy a v10 also. Also the PSD mileage doesn't drop as dramatically when towing as a gas motor. I can attest to that. It is definately true. My 5.4 triton used a lot of fuel when carrying heavy loads or plowing. My PSD gets descent mileage carrying heavy. I haven't plowed with it yet. The v10 is a LOT quieter. Also, not all gas stations carry deisel and a lot of times the pump is off to the side and older style with no pay at the pump. They may only have one deisel pump and 10 gas ones so you may have to wait. Usually isn't an issue though. Finally, $5,000.00 buys a lot of gas even at 3.00 gal. I like the PSD though and have no regrets.

 

how do you find out which states are the "green"states?

 

CA/NY/MA/ME/VT (someone check this).