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Old May 20, 2006 | 08:58 AM
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changing oil pan

Can I cut the cross member out and re weld ?????
 
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Old May 20, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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Wake up youre dreaming................ I feel your pain I also have the rust oil pan blues
 
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Old May 20, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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I think someone around here did just that....but the time it would take and all, I think you'd be better off pulling the motor. my .03cnts
 
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Old May 21, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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Welcome to Ford Truck Enthusiasts ontariopallet.

I guess you probably could cut enough of the crossmember out to get the pan clear amd weld it back in. I would want something holding the engine up since it's mounted to the crossmember.
 
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Old May 21, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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before i cut and wlded i would cut the rivets that hold the crossmember in and then bolt it back in. but it possibel that you couldn't get it out that way too. you may not be able to snake it out of the frame rails but i haven't looked that close to know for sure
 
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Old May 21, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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Hmmm....maybe you wouldn't need to get it all the way out. With the rear sump pan, maybe just sliding the crossmember forward a few inches would make the necessary clearance.
 
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Old May 22, 2006 | 06:28 AM
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good thought cookie i think might warrant a very close look.
 
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Old May 22, 2006 | 07:11 AM
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ontariopallet,
What are you trying to accomplish? Are you trying to remove your oil pan? If so, this sounds pretty drastic. Figure it this way, to move that cross mamber, your going to have to disassemble the engine mounts anyway, and you will have to support (winch) or block the engine in position. And after all that, you still have to re-weld the member in place. Just get out your repair man. and follow their instructions, and save yourself a major headache.
Good luck!
 
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Old May 22, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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i agree. i think i would just pull the motor out or at least up enough to get it off. i think in the end time spent on xmember versus engine pull would be equal. and you dont mess with the structural integrity of the truck. never pulled a psd motor. but i am sure you could pull the motor and drop back in the same day.

good luck my .02
 
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Old May 22, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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I hope I'm not wasting my time with this post, as I've never changed the oil pan on an early powerstroke, but I've done many 1999 and up, and don't know if there is a difference or not...
I remove the transmission and starter plate, unbolt the fan shroud and motor mounts, then jack the right rear corner of the block untill the turbo down-pipe just touches the firewall. Then loosen off the pan bolts, separate the pan, lower it enough to unbolt the pick-up tube from the front and then the whole thing slides out easily.
When reinstalling, I silicone the block on the sides, slide the pan back in, bolt up the pick-up then silicone the ends of the pan and bolt it up.
But that's assuming the early and late powerstrokes are the same. I'd never dare cut a cross-member.
 
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