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So potentially 450 + hp (+100 more or so with NOS) in a F150 with stump pulling torque !!!
I dont think your stock drive line or suspension and brakes are going to work too well !!!
I see wheel tubs, custom wheels, 4 link suspension, heck even a parachute
Keep us all posted.
I dont think your stock drive line or suspension and brakes are going to work too well !!!
I see wheel tubs, custom wheels, 4 link suspension, heck even a parachute
Keep us all posted.
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Originally Posted by heavyiron
So potentially 450 + hp (+100 more or so with NOS) in a F150 with stump pulling torque !!!
I dont think your stock drive line or suspension and brakes are going to work too well !!!
I see wheel tubs, custom wheels, 4 link suspension, heck even a parachute
Keep us all posted.
I dont think your stock drive line or suspension and brakes are going to work too well !!!
I see wheel tubs, custom wheels, 4 link suspension, heck even a parachute
Keep us all posted.
i should be @ 248.6 rwhp and 323.2 lb-ft @ at the rear
and thats "what it should be now"
so when i add the Kenne Bell blower
thats good for atleast 151 rwhp and 154 lb-ft rear whel torque so just with that on paper in a perfect world i should be @ 399 rwhp and 477ft-lb's rear wheel torque. and i know thats on paper in a perfect world
but with head work new insides and ported and polished intake new injectors better ignition and maybe a 50 shot of juice 500-600 Hp and way over 600 lb-ft of torque seams reasonable and fully with in reach
would be a blast in a F150 and would likely give any SRT10 a run for its money
stay tuned to PINKSu might see me own a SRT10 lol
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i don't want to rattle your hopes man. but we spent 7k on mine and were only able to pull 35 stinking more hp out of a 3 valve .
yes headers, worked heads . custom reground cams a blower kit will give maybe a total of 100 more but to get 5 to 600 total and on the ground it's ?able . and needs to be seen on the rollers and paper.
there is just such a shortage of parts . it makes super rodding a v10 almost impossible
yes headers, worked heads . custom reground cams a blower kit will give maybe a total of 100 more but to get 5 to 600 total and on the ground it's ?able . and needs to be seen on the rollers and paper.
there is just such a shortage of parts . it makes super rodding a v10 almost impossible
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Originally Posted by captchas
i don't want to rattle your hopes man. but we spent 7k on mine and were only able to pull 35 stinking more hp out of a 3 valve .
yes headers, worked heads . custom reground cams a blower kit will give maybe a total of 100 more but to get 5 to 600 total and on the ground it's ?able . and needs to be seen on the rollers and paper.
there is just such a shortage of parts . it makes super rodding a v10 almost impossible
yes headers, worked heads . custom reground cams a blower kit will give maybe a total of 100 more but to get 5 to 600 total and on the ground it's ?able . and needs to be seen on the rollers and paper.
there is just such a shortage of parts . it makes super rodding a v10 almost impossible
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we tryed all the bolt on items we could find includeing a mag hightec trans pan that leaked a qt a day. from a miss matched oring grove that puts the ring inside the case "not so on a 4r100 " afe air intake kit supposed to give 12 hp. HA. ford racing headers. "a 5hp gain over 3k rpm" mufflers, tuners all put on and dynoed to the ground . what did help was the gibson headers 10 hp up stairs, sctflash excal2 tuner with a super custom tune done by a well known ford man. moded the trans inside with whats out and could be matched up. gear changes to 4:56 from 4:10. mostly of what people"our cutomers" ask about. the dyno proved worth less the every day stuff a speed shop of lesser known abilities would try and push. a blower kit we could not as none are made yet for a 3 valve motor. and for the 3 v v10 there's is not much out and what is, is over priced junk.
what we tryed is what would not void a warrenty.
what we tryed is what would not void a warrenty.
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I get ya Charlie,
Thing with me is warrenty is long over now. and i have the Banks Power Pack as stated i Trust Banks Engineering kit Includes: Banks Ram-Air intake with Ballistic air-filter housing, lifetime filter and service kit; Electronic OttoMind engine-calibration module (optional); Stainless, heat-shielded TorqueTube exhaust manifolds with PowerPickle pulse converter; Stainless Y-pipe assembly with seamless Y-collector; Stainless, low-restriction Dynaflow muffler; Stainless, 3.5" constant-diameter Monster tailpipe; 4" polished-stainless tailpipe tip
and i notice the increase more so when pulling and i completely trust there dyno runs but also know that, they are done in perfect conditions maybe there is more in the older V10's then in the newer ones??? to date anyways!
Thing with me is warrenty is long over now. and i have the Banks Power Pack as stated i Trust Banks Engineering kit Includes: Banks Ram-Air intake with Ballistic air-filter housing, lifetime filter and service kit; Electronic OttoMind engine-calibration module (optional); Stainless, heat-shielded TorqueTube exhaust manifolds with PowerPickle pulse converter; Stainless Y-pipe assembly with seamless Y-collector; Stainless, low-restriction Dynaflow muffler; Stainless, 3.5" constant-diameter Monster tailpipe; 4" polished-stainless tailpipe tip
and i notice the increase more so when pulling and i completely trust there dyno runs but also know that, they are done in perfect conditions maybe there is more in the older V10's then in the newer ones??? to date anyways!
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The 2-valvers do have SOME potential to breath better. Charlie's is a 3-valver which is already pushing the limit on breathing, hence not getting much from any mods.
The only thing possible is to move the torque curve up the RPM range and you can then pull more torque higher up, giving those much-coveted-but-hardly-worth-anything higher HP numbers. The torque peak would move up and give more torque, but at the cost of trying to move that flying brick
One of the best-performing boost of mid-range torque is either more cubic inches or a blower. The blower, of course, being the cheapest and easiest solution.
I've brought it up here before, but I've wanted to build an 8:1 V10 with a blower, and some modest boost, maybe 10PSI.
The lower compression lets you get more air-fuel charge in the cylinder.
Forged pistons, H-beam rods, and an excellent balance job (keep in mind the balance shaft which almost requires you keep the rod weights the same as stock). Beefier rods while keeping the weight the same as stock? Hmm...
Port the 2-valve heads a little, maybe stuff a bigger exhaust valve in there.
http://fords.kilonet.org/10strokin/100_9329.jpg (thanks 10strokin!)
The only thing possible is to move the torque curve up the RPM range and you can then pull more torque higher up, giving those much-coveted-but-hardly-worth-anything higher HP numbers. The torque peak would move up and give more torque, but at the cost of trying to move that flying brick
One of the best-performing boost of mid-range torque is either more cubic inches or a blower. The blower, of course, being the cheapest and easiest solution.
I've brought it up here before, but I've wanted to build an 8:1 V10 with a blower, and some modest boost, maybe 10PSI.
The lower compression lets you get more air-fuel charge in the cylinder.
Forged pistons, H-beam rods, and an excellent balance job (keep in mind the balance shaft which almost requires you keep the rod weights the same as stock). Beefier rods while keeping the weight the same as stock? Hmm...
Port the 2-valve heads a little, maybe stuff a bigger exhaust valve in there.
http://fords.kilonet.org/10strokin/100_9329.jpg (thanks 10strokin!)
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thanks for saying what i mean art.
the 3 v seems to be wrung out almost to the max for a n.a. motor . the bolt on's we found and made up were preety much worth less and proved as such when we chained and straped the big baby down. there was really more lost in the torqe reduction programing in the trans on a 4x4 then in a 4x2 as we proved last year when our lost member nisair and i ran our trucks the same day on the same dyno.
seems that only useing the banks kit on the 2 valve and force feeding it air are the only true fact ways to make it hum better. now as we still wait for whipple to finish up the 3 v kit they have been promising for a year and half would come to day light . my last email to them came back " shortly we hope " we are still working on it.
the 3 v seems to be wrung out almost to the max for a n.a. motor . the bolt on's we found and made up were preety much worth less and proved as such when we chained and straped the big baby down. there was really more lost in the torqe reduction programing in the trans on a 4x4 then in a 4x2 as we proved last year when our lost member nisair and i ran our trucks the same day on the same dyno.
seems that only useing the banks kit on the 2 valve and force feeding it air are the only true fact ways to make it hum better. now as we still wait for whipple to finish up the 3 v kit they have been promising for a year and half would come to day light . my last email to them came back " shortly we hope " we are still working on it.
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